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Now that I think about it, it was probably before the pandemic. πŸ€”

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Drain the fluids completely for Winter

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

For the money you save by not doing the oil change you can probably afford a new mower every 10 years or so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How often were you changing the oil in your mower? I own an electric lawnmower now, but before that I just changed the oil once at the beginning of each mowing season.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I only changed it once with the extra can I bought with the mower but never since. I'd imagine it easily costing somewhere around 20 to 30 euros a year so that'll pretty much cover a new mower every 10 years.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 month ago (15 children)

If you buy an electric mower, you never have to change the oil again. Or the spark plug. Or buy gas. Or clean the carburetor.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If you never mow and grow insect friendly lawns...you wont ever have to buy a mower...fuck lawns.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I did this for years. I even got into the HOA board just to keep them off my back. It was so freeing to not have to mow.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The HOA won't let me have goats to keep the grass low though

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Jokes on you, I never did most of that anyway.

Also still got the gas can from pre covid.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

And they're quieter! God I wish my neighbors all had electric mowers. Sometimes it seems like they're invited to all the zoom meetings I attend.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

And when they're being used the engine doesn't have to spin all. the. time.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The mower I got from my grandpa has never had an oil change and it still works as of last week. Your mower will almost certainly be fine.

Now my pressure washer... I forgot to empty the gas from my pressure washer before storing it for several years and it became mucky glorp inside.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I got an ev mower. Solved.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I also solved mine but by never changing the oil.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I had a mower I bought in 2001, took it with me for a few moves. Sometime around 2011 it started sputtering and just take running like crap. Tried to drain it, and it basically took so afternoon. But I got it drained and replaced. The filter had disintegrated.

With the electric mower, I've had it since 2013 or so. The battery is finally starting to show its age but it does still work well enough. Still haven't done anything to it. Might replace the blade soon

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I’ve had my current mower about 14-years.

I don’t think I’ve ever changed the oil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Oof glad I don't have to do that anymore. My car on the other hand... 😐 It's probably due

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

A true shower thought

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it's a Honda, it's fiiiiiine

Probably due an oil change about 2029

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I just did my first oil change in 4 years and it's still running strong.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I thought two-stroke engines mix the oil and fuel together? Every time you refuel, you should also be topping up the oil. Am I wrong?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Only for some engines. Make sure you read the manual and the cap.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not sure you can even buy a two stroke lawnmower. Snowblower, maybe.

Yes, you need to have oil mixed with the gasoline in a two stroke, because the area under the piston (where the crankshaft is) creates the vacuum on the upstroke to draw in the next fuel charge. Lubrication of the crankshaft bearings, then, must come from oil that is in the gasoline, either by premixing it, or from an oil injection system.

A four stroke, on the other hand, uses the top of the cylinder, above the piston, to draw in the next fuel charge through an intake valve, and the area underneath the piston is bathed with oil. Over time, that oil (including its additives) breaks down and loses its lubricity, and must be changed for fresh oil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've got and used them.

Making sure I'm reading this right - are two and 4 strokes oriented differently? I always thought both were above the cylinder.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Orientation isn't terribly relevant, although it is easier to design a two stroke engine in an "odd" orientation, because it does not have to be concerned about engine oil draining back into a sump.

In the simplest kind of two stroke, the compression and intake happen at the same time. Piston goes up (toward the cylinder head), compressing the fuel in the combustion chamber, while at the same time, fuel is drawn in beneath the piston, around the crankshaft. At top dead center (ish), spark occurs. Combustion powers the piston down (power), while at the same time forcing the fuel charge from beneath the piston into the combustion chamber via a transfer port, which also directs the exhaust to exit the exhaust port.

These two strokes - one up, one down - are one complete "cycle" of the engine's operation.

In a four stroke, starting with the intake stroke, the piston moves down and the intake valve opens via a camshaft. Intake fuel charge enters the cylinder between the piston and cylinder head. The next stroke is compression. Both intake and exhaust valves are closed as the piston goes up. When the piston is all the way up (ish) to the cylinder head, spark occurs, causing combustion. The intake and exhaust valves remain closed, and the piston moves down. That was the power stroke. The next time the piston moves up, the exhaust valve is open, and exhaust is ejected through it. Intake, compression, power, exhaust; or colloquially "suck, squeeze, bang, blow." Those four strokes complete one "cycle" of the engine's operation.

Each engine has a crankshaft. This is the rotating shaft on which the piston is attached with a connecting rod. On the crank end of that rod there are bearings. (Two strokes will use roller bearings while four strokes will (usually) use flat bearings.) The connecting rod attaches to the piston with a wrist pin bearing. These bearings require lubrication. Without a thin layer of oil between the metal surfaces moving against one another, friction will quickly create heat and catastrophic bearing failure. (A four stroke also needs lubrication of the valve train, contained in the cylinder head; two strokes have no valves, and so no top end lubrication is required.)

A four stroke engine accomplishes this lubrication with thick engine oil. Most commonly, this oil collects in a "wet sump" oil pan at the bottom of the engine, is picked up by an oil pump, and circulated through the engine, being directed at the parts which require it, finally draining back into the sump. (There are also "dry sump" systems, where the oil resides in an elevated oil tank.)

A two stroke engine - since the crankshaft portion is also the engine's fuel intake - does not have an independent oiling system. Such a system would interfere with the fuel intake, so the lubrication for the crankshaft bearings has to be included in the fuel. As described previously, this can be either with an oil injection system, where oil in a separate reservoir is delivered directly into the crankcase, or by premixing thin two stroke oil into the gasoline. In either case, the two stroke oil provides lubrication to the crankshaft, and then is burned in combustion. This is why two stroke engines have tha blue exhaust plume; that's the two stroke oil burning.

Two strokes also have incredibly good power to weight ratios, mainly because they have twice as many power strokes per engine rotation. They are also incredibly simple, what with not having camshaft and valve train. Why don't we use two strokes all the time then?

Well, mainly because they burn oil by design. But they are also noisy, and their design makes them severly RPM limited (they'll lose power as they're unable to intake enough air/fuel to keep running). Where two stroke engines shine is in very small applications (weed trimmers and model airplanes) or very large applications (industrial and maritime), though the latter makes use of fuel injection as opposed to carburetion, and does use a wet/dry sump engine lubrication system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Never seen a two-stroke mower...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I found a Lawn Boy in a barn a few years ago that I'm using. Two stroke from 1979. Infact those engines were also used as air cooled outboard boat motors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I've seen and used them. Not for 10 years or so though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I knew some folks with a repair shop as a kid and got to use one of these.

https://youtu.be/-pG7TKX8RCM

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I haven't pushed it anywhere near 10,000 km, so I should be good, right?

Right?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Mine burns a little oil, so I just keep adding it. That way it gets a perpetual oil change. guytappinghead.jpg

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Do you just have a cloud of smoke around you as you mow

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Some mowers are designed that way. Mine advertised "no oil changes", but really it means I have to add oil a couple times a year instead of draining it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've owned a car like that. Drove that thing for years until the driver's side door fell off and I parked it.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, the ol Lemmy switcharoo

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The door parked itself, I parked the rest of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

lol, that got me.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've changed the air filter on mine and I think that's all the maintenance I will ever do

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sharpen/replace the blade. It's cheap and easy to do, and it will cut like a brand new mower.

Also, this is a PSA that you should sharpen your shovel. Makes digging way easier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also, this is a PSA that you should sharpen your shovel. Makes digging way easier.

A shovel with the sides of it sharpened via angle grinder works wonders for chopping tall weeds too. Swing that mf like a baseball bat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do I look like, a person with a lawn mower, shovel and an angle grinder?

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