Though I never would have thought to do this in my community, I don't think it's unacceptable to ban people over voting behaviors if there is good evidence of brigading or persistence, however, using that specific rule to justify it is a bit of a stretch. It would help to see Beaver's explanation and what the rest of the moderators make of the events.
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When I shared what I thought of events as one of those moderators, I was de-modded. It's clear what is really happening here.
Posting just to see if i was banned for being critical in that other thread. But yeah i also moved to that other instance.
Glad to hear some of you are trying to clean things up so this community isn't the laughing stock lemmy though. I mean it, thank you.
Blocked Beaver for myself for spamming just hours ago too. I knew all the low quality vegan memes already and many of them are overly self-boasting. Veganism is not for humans first.
Years of watching Ed Winters taught me that overly angry arguments will not be understood or reflected through the filter of rage. Confrontation as a means for civil reflection (ie Asking Questions) works, but one has to know how. Beaver did not.
Holy shit. Well, I hope the community can move forward from this.
From the write-up, this looks like another example in microcosm of the Anglosphere's culture clash over the issue of speech. Namely, openness vs censoriousness, or safety vs harm, depending on one's point of view - and probably generation.
I am not (quite) vegan but since I seem to spend my time defending vegans I thought I'd try hanging out with a few and perhaps even sharing polite tips on how to be more convincing with omnivores. Risky plan! But I have not yet been canceled. Seems like that is partly to your credit. So thanks for being so thoughtful and open-minded, it really reflects well on this community.
I think that's an adequate reaction. Thank you for taking action and being transparant about it.
As a member of this community for quite some time, the past couple of days felt really weird to me. Instead of peaceful and (from my perspective) valuable communication between vegans and non-vegans, the mood changed to a radical, almost war-like athmosphere. I was not among those being banned but I had several discussions where suddenly loads of other, completely normal posts were deleted.
I think this community should be open for other opinions. Everyone who'd like to engage in a respectful way - vegan or not - should be welcomed. I think the target should be to have a 'pro-vegan community' and not a 'hardline anti everything that is even remotely non-vegan'.
Was de-modding two other moderators because of paranoid fantasies about a conspiracy part of the adequate reaction?
Cant believe you are a mod here again after crying and insulting your way out lmao.
Not a Vegan, but as a mod elsewhere on lemmy.world, I'm often in the modlog, so when I saw all the "Rule 5" bans, well, my spidey sense was tingling. :)
I'm glad you got to the bottom of it and took action.
I was torn on the whole cat food thing, my four kitties will fight you for pepperoni sticks, but my opinion on modding would have been "anyone coming to a Vegan community going 'uhm aktually - cats!' is trolling", same as anyone going into an electric vehicle group going "but what about four stroke internal combustion engines?" would be trolling.
I wish you luck going forward! Modding is a rough gig and not for everyone!
I think I've reached my limit of drama here. I'm more interested in vegan recipes and vegan news than the clashing of egos between people who just so happen to be vegan. Reckon it's high time to block this community.
It should hopefully get better from here, and this should hopefully be the last drama post. Vegan news and recipes will be back very shortly, but it's understandable if you don't trust that after this.
I definitely like the food you folks come up with, vegetarian myself.
Anything eater here, fucking love some vegan recipes.
Which reminds me, I need to eat. BRB making 10 minute farro just for you guys. :)
https://traderjoesrants.com/2022/04/20/trader-joes-10-minute-farro-whole-grain/
plus dried cranberries
Excuse me? You can't just open up my world to the flavor combination of "nutty and tart" without giving me time to prepare.
(That sounds amazing)
Nutty and tart and a little bit sweet... but I put dried cranberries on/in everything. Dried black currants too!
(Non-Vegan) Banana Bread (1/2 stick of butter, 1 egg):
In light of rising tempers and what I consider emotional abuses of power against fellow moderators, I am going to take a break from this thread.
Interesting course of events
I’ve been seeing a lot of this as a result of posts making it to all without being subscribed. This feels like a good measured response to restore some semblance of order to the community. I don’t mind seeing the occasional vegan related post as it’s an interesting topic I can occasionally learn something from, but I do agree that the constant posting coupled with the capricious bans put me very close to just blocking the community and moving on with life.