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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It can be even more crooked than the article states. You HAVE to have 270 electoral votes to get the presidency.

If third party candidates in any capacity wins some electoral votes, there's a good chance that no one at all will get at least 270 total.

When that happens, it means the House gets to pick anyone they want who was on the ticket, by majority vote.

In this manner, a third party candidate could get 135, trump could get 134, Harris could get 269, and then even though the cast majority of people would have voted for Harris, the House, which is currently republican led would simply just vote Trump into office.

This is also why it's pretty much impossible for a third party candidate to ever become president, unless the third party was already the house majority beforehand. No matter how great a third party candidate could be, there's just no way one could appear and take enough electoral votes to total 270 in an election, even if they were the clear majority winner by public vote. "The house always wins."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

The only time in my lifetime someone other than the top two candidates got even a single electoral college vote, it was by accident in 2004.

So, yes, this single vote, cast in error, has a larger count than 50+ years of 3rd parties combined.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_presidential_election_in_Minnesota

"The following were the members of the Electoral College from the state. Nine were pledged for Kerry/Edwards, but one made a mistake and ended up voting for Ewards/Edwards[10] and thus became a faithless elector. Minnesota's electors cast secret ballots, so unless one of the electors claims responsibility, it is unlikely that the identity of the faithless elector will ever be known. As a result of this incident, Minnesota Statutes were amended to provide for public balloting of the electors' votes and invalidation of a vote cast for someone other than the candidate to whom the elector is pledged.[11]

Sonja Berg

Vi Grooms-Alban

Matthew Little

Michael Meuers

Tim O'Brien

Lil Ortendahl

Everett Pettiford

Jean Schiebel

Frank Simon

Chandler Harrison Stevens"

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