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During the first impressions of said distro, what feature surprised you the most?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Any distro with KDE, when I was on Windows I thought Linux always looked like Gnome.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

This is ancient history and will probably make me sound older than dirt but when Ubuntu first came out, it felt so easy to install and use. I don’t know that any of the innovations were wholly theirs as other distros were trying the same stuff. But it was the first distro I used that really tried to make it all easy and it felt like a complete OS.

Fedora Core was doing the same stuff and now, we have tons of tools but whether you like it today or not, the early Ubuntu releases were like, “Holy shit. I can partition from the Live CD? What is this witchcraft?” Debian obviously was the core project but little niceties were rare on Linux back then. I did want to install multimedia codecs when I was a teen. I did need guidance and documentation.

Not defending Snaps or whatever here but early Ubuntu was user-friendly and made it easy to transition off Windows ME or whatever was dominant and shitty back then.

A separate shoutout to Chrunchbang for customization and minimalism. That was probably the distro that got me hardcore hooked on Linux. I had enough experience at that point to not need hand holding but it was cool out of the box.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Debian. Since so many distros are based of it I always thought of it to be a stripped down, minimal and basic distro, but after daily driving for a year now in suprised how feature complete and pleasent it is out of the box with kde DE.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Slackware. Turns out dependency resolution isn't really an issue at all.
The package manager doesn't need to do it cause it's done by the distro's maintainer.
Also, how easy it was to add FlatPak support.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Tails is easily the distro which surprised me the most. This is because, even tough I would rate myself a well aware privacy advocate, I didn't expect to see a full suite of privacy tools. I somehow just expected, that it would be just the Tor Browser and nothing more. I don't know what I thought tough. I need to mention, that Tails was one of my first distros I've used so I was kind of mindblown that all these tools could fit onto a USB Thumb drive.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Many have surprised me for different reasons.

The most recent that did is Alpine. I decided for some reason to install it for regular desktop use on an RPI400.

First surprise, the ISO was so small. Second surprise, everything installed so fast when I used the install scripts. Third surprise was the up-to-date repos. The final surprise was the community: it handled noob questions and complicated questions so well, walked users through click by click and one command at a time. Awesome and totally an acceptable option for a desktop which is why I immediately installed it on my main laptop and used it for a number of months.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Arch Linux. Everyone said it was hard to use, unstable, etc. but my experience with it has been the exact opposite.

Yes, the install process is needlessly complicated (although it got a lot simpler now that we have archinstall), but the OS itself is rock solid and rarely has any issues that require more than a reboot or a package reinstall to solve. The AUR is a godsend too if you don't want or don't know how to compile stuff from source.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Arch Linux has by far the best community, the support wiki is the most useful wiki to Linux there is, it basically covers everything. Mad props to the arch Linux community.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (3 children)

openSUSE Tumbleweed, it's jusr a solid distro altogether

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Have to agree first time whenever I had to run steam it would cause a memory leak and slow the system down ,now I have reinstalled it two more times first reinstall steam games not working and can't create extra swap ,second reinstall swap worked great ,but steam games still didn't and then it was FUCKING 32 BIT PACKAGES took like 3 hours to figure that out ,but now it is my dailydriver

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

NixOS. Not in a good way. I love the idea of configuring your entire system with a configuration file. However, on my laptop I couldn't get the KDE live boot image to boot into the GUI. So, I tried the gnome live image, successfully, and used it to install KDE. I thought that I was in the clear but then sddm wasn't working. I had to disable it to get nixos to boot into KDE.

I mean, I fixed it. But, with an intel APU from 2014, I haven't had any problems with this laptop running Arch, Debian, Linux mint, or Fedora.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I, a systems guy, have a better time learning go than nix packages.

The lang is just rough for me for some reason. I use it as glorified pigs.txt atm instead of my single source of truth for my system.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Arch Linux. Many people said it is unstable and hard to setup. It turns out very stable as long as I update it frequently and AUR makes installing software easier. Even easier than ppa-based ubuntu as it will destroy your dependency if you are not careful. Lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Isn't installing from the AUR equivalent to installing from a PPA, in terms of security and trust?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Void Linux, very clean and fast on old hardware.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Second impression of Garuda (Arch based). My first impression was the dragonized version, which is KDE with lots of mods to make it Mac like, but with extra window animations.

I like things simple, so when I tried Garuda again, I installed the Gnome version. Other than some weirdness getting my Nvidia card working with Wayland, it has run better than anything else on my laptop.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

before 2010 when a suse disk was put into a laptop and installed and the network card and everything worked just fine no tweaking.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Void.

It all started by curiosity: "let's try this no-where distros for the lulz"

Then it ended up to be the distro I am using everywhere.

It's stable and quite on the "bleeding edge" in term of software versions...

And damn it's fast son!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Endeavour OS

I've tried all the usual distros many times over the years but never an arch based distro until last year. I gave arch a go first and it was great but then tried endeavouros and it came with the fixes I needed and was more instantly good from the first boot. The AUR and arch wiki stuff just makes the whole experience most (sry to use this term) Windows like in terms of fixes and support.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (6 children)

The entire Ublue project is freaking amazing. But Bazzite finished off my distrohopping. I work by day and game by night. Bazzite has eliminated all maintenance tasks for me. It just works. It makes things so damn easy. Also, the Ublue CI/CD builds is crazy cool. It allows them to focus on the important stuff, while all the chores are done automatically. Truly amazing stuff. I also heard lots of praise about the dev oriented spin: Bluefin.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I started on Bazzite as my first real Linux desktop. After a while I rebased to Aurora (Bluefin but KDE instead of Gnome) and I really liked it. I ended up rebasing back to Bazzite for a while.

My only issue is around a very specific piece of software that has issues with Wayland. That's why all the rebasing.

Being able to rebase so easily like that is so freaking cool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Any software KVM like Synergy.

I work from home and Synergy has been a core part of my setup for many years.

It lets me use my personal PC and work laptop from one KB+M seamlessly.

I've tried so many different things. Input Leap, installed on Aurora by default, is supposed to work with Wayland, but doesn't work out of the box.

I'm resigned to using Windows during the week so I can use Synergy and switching back to Linux over the weekend because I prefer it now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Steam OS 3 from Steam Deck. It's based on Archlinux, but system is write protected by default. And the Gaming mode is surprisingly good. And that the Desktop mode is just Arch+KDE.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fedora Atomic/Kinoite, just so relieved when one day I fucked the bootloader, and it didn't boot anymore, and I only needed to rollback in grub to a perfectly working system

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You were able to get to the bootloader with a fucked up bootloader?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Maybe i "fucked the bootloader config" should be better, and with fedora unified kernel support, you can rollback using the UEFI entry so even a fucked bootloader wouldn't stop you

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Spiral Linux. It's like Endeavor, but it sets up Debian with sane defaults for people who want a GUI installer experience.

I liked that it basically felt like any other distro, but it was surprisingly fast to boot and shutdown.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kubuntu.

The prevailing wisdom used to be that if somebody is tired of Windows and wants to switch you would send them to Ubuntu. Having used Ubuntu and Debian and Mint and Pop! OS and CentOS and Red Hat and Fedora and Kubuntu, Kubuntu with the new KDE plasma desktop seems to be the most Windows like while still retaining the Linux flavor OS that I have used so far.

Ubuntu by comparison is slow and convoluted and those are huge turn offs for neophyte Linux users who want to get away from Windows.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think KDE is doing the heavy lifting of being like Windows. As a long time Windows user who would every now and then try Ubuntu and hate it, it was Gnome that really turned me off. KDE is so much nicer, IMO.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I'd argue it's the other way around. Windows is doing the heavy lifting of being like KDE and when they try to do something themselves everybody hates it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I agree. It's not that I expect Linux to be like windows. It's not and that's a good thing. I'm just thinking for when I encounter people and they ask me, "Hey, I was thinking about trying a Linux. What should I do? Which one should I pick?"

I'm going to recommend Kubuntu.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

NixOS is surprisingly easy to use

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Just switched over to EndeavourOS & it’s been great

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (3 children)

OpenSuSE - YaST is as good as is made out to be. I like how many fundamental parts of linux are managed via one tool. Other distros I'd used before were heterogenous mix of tools that felt cobbled together and inconsistent, while YaST feels well designed, integrated and consistent.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Tumbleweed surprised me with how it receives constant, up-to-the-minute updates yet somehow doesn't ever seem to break.

It also surprised me with how much I like KDE. I had used it way back in the day when it was a bit complicated looking and ugly. These days Plasma makes the whole experience nice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

My weapon of choice

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I'd agree with that. Also zypper has fun arguments, like zypper up

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

voidlinux: gave me much better battery life - I assume because it starts as a minimal system and one adds only the essentials to do the job - compared to the soup-to-nuts distros that pile everything in so that newbies are acccomodated. Of course, the voidlinux approach needs more linux skills - but it's not that hard and the doco is great.

Also, I love the back to basics runit init system and runsv service runner (I'm old so I like that stuff) and the ultra fast xbps packaging system.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Bending the question a little but my second "first impression" of Arch's "simplicity" surprised me the most.

I was running Gentoo for a while before deciding to move back, and I was surprised that somehow I had

  • saved space
  • gotten faster at doing new things (...)
  • didn't lose any boot speed or anything like that

Granted, I had jumped on Gentoo because of misconceptions (speed, ricing, the idea that I needed USE flags), but going back, I saw things more clearly:

  • the AUR being basically a shell script download + 300 MB of base-devel was simpler and more space-efficient than /var/db/repos (IIRC -- since the portage and guru ebuilds were all held locally anyway after syncing, an on-demand AUR saved space).
    • the simple automatic build file audits on Arch felt more clean to me. I like checking my build files; had to make a script for the guru ebuild equivalent (but maybe there's a portage arg i missed somewhere -- wouldn't be the first time)
  • Arch repos separating parts of packages in case you don't need some part (like splitting some font into its languages, or splitting a package into x and x-doc and x-perl) was almost a simple USE flag-ish thing already
  • /etc/makepkg.conf was Gentoo's make.conf. And its build flags looked similar to the CFLAGS I manually set up anyway.
  • My boot time (btrfs inside LUKS with encrypted /boot) was the same with systemd vs. openrc
  • I realized I liked systemd (because of the completeness of my systemctl muscle memory, like with systemctl status and journalctl, or managing systemd-logind instead of using seatd and friends).

Not bashing on Gentoo or anything, but it's when I realized why Arch was "simple." Even me sorely missing /etc/portage/patches was quelled by paru -S <pkg> --fm vim --savechanges.

And Arch traveling at the speed of simplicity even quantifiably helped: Had to download aur/teams the other day with nine-minute warning.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not bashing on Gentoo or anything, but it's when I realized why Arch was "simple."

That's funny. I switched from Slackware to Gentoo in 2003 because it was simpler.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I just wish more distros made their terminal prompt and updater look as good as Gentoo's, it's weirdly the one thing I miss most about messing around with it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Arch Linux. All the software at their latest version (which is usually the best one), within a couple of commands, either from the huge official repos or the AUR.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

LFS: Not being so complicated actually. Arch: That a fully fletched OS install can be done in less than 10 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Isn't maintaining LFS a pain for the long run?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It is. Especially when you need the night to compile FF and it constantly fails. But I learned a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Then let's call my install 30p87OS, that was made from scratch. Now it's a distro.

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