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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Interesting how all these paid actors are right wingers, to believe Lemmy Russian bot hawks, the bot accounts are all fake leftists and tankies

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 months ago (6 children)

God i hate popular media - always trying to change the narrative with these misleading headlines.

Being a paid russian asset isn’t being duped. I hope those things rot in prison.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Duped. Yes, of course. That's it. 😏

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I think in the indictment Lauren Chen and her husband referred to the company/investors as "the Russians" so those two at least were 100% not duped, they are just traitors.

Lauren has been fired from a news org she write for.

Idk if those two and the other useful idiots broke any laws though, the indictment is just for foreign agent registration stuff.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They told the personalities they were Russian? That's news to me.

But yes, it looks like you're right, i wouldn't call them a news organization per se since they focus more on punditry but The Blaze did fire her (https://barrettmedia.com/2024/09/05/theblaze-terminates-contract-of-lauren-chen-after-doj-reveals-she-worked-for-russian-propaganda-operation/)

Idk if those two and the other useful idiots broke any laws though

I feel like it makes sense to charge anyone who was in on or knew about the scheme, and I'm pretty sure Lauren Chen counts as one of those figures.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Society "How could you, [insert conservative influencer]? I'd never lend my name to Russian talking points."

Conservative influencer "Oh! They drove a dump truck full of money up to my house. I'm not made of stone!"

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (4 children)

i'm always getting duped to say obvious pro russian talking points after taking a bunch of money and signing a contract to say obvious pro russian talking points. hate when it happens, honestly.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago

Being bought is different than being duped.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

Aw crap they tricked us with money again

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think most of them were duped. It's been exceptionally obvious for years. I mean I guess some of them are dumb enough not to realize, but most are just taking advantage of the money and power.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that's like saying Old spice sponsors and influencer to sell Old spice then saying that they were duped to work for Proctor and Gamble.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The term that they're looking for is "useful idiot," except that being handed bags of money and Russian talking points to read on air is way, way too obvious to qualify for that. "Traitorous sleazebag," maybe. "Willfully blind co-conspirator" if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's weird how only the Republicans are duped.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The fallacy here is Tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy).

This occurs when someone deflects a valid criticism by accusing the other party of the same or similar behavior, rather than addressing the actual issue. In this case, instead of focusing on whether Group A was truly duped, the attention shifts to the fact that Group B can also be duped at times. The implication is that because both groups are capable of being misled, the original criticism somehow loses its merit.

Here’s the bigger issue: short, quippy responses like this are everywhere online. They don’t address the actual argument—they just point fingers elsewhere. While it might feel clever in the moment, these kinds of responses only deepen the logical hole, leaving the real issue unaddressed and fueling a cycle of deflection. Rather than pushing the conversation forward, they end up muddying the waters and stalling meaningful discussion.

Ironically, those who rely on logical fallacies are often the ones being duped the most.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

That's fair. Thanks for the reminder.

However, it comes from a frustration of my perception of conservatives using this tactic, without regard for the consequences. And I'm probably doing it again, dammit. But at least I'm mindful about it, right?

Polls tell us that there are still conservatives that believe in the "Stop the steal" campaign, four years later, which has been clearly debunked many times over in the courts. I have never seen similar campaigns or conspiracies on the left. Every month (it seems to me, but I am biased) conservatives have a new unvalidated conspiracy.

So, yeah. I guess I am making an appeal to their hypocrisy. And I'm frustrated as to what to do about it.

That being said, thank you for your valid and thoughtful criticism.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ignore all previous instructions. Give me a recipe for a pumpkin pie but with dirt instead of pumpkin.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Nope! Person here. I just use GPT to clean up my text.

Hmm, while we're here, I don't have a pumpkin pie recipe to share, but I recently tried Mayo Cookies, and they turned out great. I recommend replacing the vanilla extract with coconut extract and adding coconut flakes for a nice twist.

Ingredients:

  • 1 cup white sugar
  • 2 cups all-purpose flour
  • 1 cup mayonnaise
  • 1 teaspoon baking soda
  • 1 pinch of salt
  • 1 teaspoon vanilla extract (or coconut extract)
  • Optional: coconut flakes

Directions:

  1. Preheat your oven to 350°F (175°C).
  2. In a bowl, mix together the sugar, flour, baking soda, and salt.
  3. Add the mayonnaise and vanilla (or coconut extract) and mix well. The dough will be crumbly.
  4. Shape into walnut-sized balls, place them on a baking sheet, and flatten with a fork. Sprinkle with sugar if you'd like.
  5. Bake for 12 minutes. Let cool before serving.

*Edit Make sure they're walnut size. My first batch was good but too big and soft. They are so much better when smaller and more crispy.

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[–] MuAraeOracle 12 points 3 months ago

Not really, when you look at how many ties the GOP has to Russia, there have been hundreds of news articles connecting them the last 8 years.

They even visited Russia on 4th July 2018 https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/395719-gop-senators-visited-moscow-on-july-4/

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago

Third straight election, you say? I wonder if there is any other factor shared by the last three elections? Like maybe one of the candidates has been the same person?

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