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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Greta: Capitalism is to blame
Also Greta: meets up with volodymyr zelenśkyj

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, what do you think about Zelenśkyj?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I like him. Am I not supposed to?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

No, actually.

  1. He is holding political prisoners (Kononovyč brothers)
  2. He has banned multiple opposition parties
  3. He is continuing the Majdanite ban on the KPU and communist symbols.
  4. He suspended elections "until the war is over" and also stated "the war won't be over until he takes Krym" Krym is rather deep in Russia's territory by now and Zelenśkyj has trouble with Donbass let alone Krym. This boils down to "Zelenśkyj suspended elections indefinitely." The Majdan regime is a literal fascist regime, attacking Russians and communists. (I'm not saying to support Russia either, although a lot of people on LG would say to support Russia)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Suspending elections until war is over is encoded in their constitution.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

If their communists are anything like the swedish ones they are just "tankies". They'll love russia and china with the reasoning that they are "not usa" and therefore automatically good. This has been a huge issue for the european "far"-left for ages.

Most of what you listed is just attributably to being at war. Elections are impossible to hold during war and the crimea-thing is just posturing at this point which mean very little.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yes it's such an issue for the European left to have people with principles, who are right all the time and can think beyond elections to enact change.

Don't make me laugh, social Democrats would sooner vote with the far right to prevent the actual left from winning elections.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Elections are impossible to hold during war.

Historically, no.

and the crimea-thing is just posturing at this point which mean very little.

You should go in the middle of Kiev and shout this. Pretty soon, some armed thugs will pull up, strip you, beat you up, throw green paint on you then tie you on a street lamp and piss on you. It's not posturing.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why does he have so much support from NATO countries considering these points?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Because NATO is not "pro-democracy". Portugal under the Salazar regime was one of the founders of NATO.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look who’s just figuring out that nato is just rebranded imperialism

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I'm not arguing, I'm just honestly asking questions. Why is NATO imperialistic? From my perspective, they are trying to help an independent country defend itself from people who are trying to take it from them by force.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

NATO actively pushed the Ukrainians into this war, because what is happening here is a proxy war. NATO, US and EU officials openly admit this, and even brag about it.

This war didn't start in 2022. It started in 2012 with the Maidan coup.

Furthermore, if you think NATO is not an imperialist organization, then I don't think you've been following what has been going on in the world since its inception.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm still a bit confused. It was Ukraine that was attacked by Russia and needed to defend itself. How did NATO push them into war?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I’m used to everything pro-Ukraine on this instance being downvoted to hell. Everyone who supports Russia is being downvoted instead. What is going on?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Must have showed up on a bunch of people from other instances’ “all” feeds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lot of Nazi fans popping in from other instances I guess.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or your echo chamber is leaking

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good for her. She finally grew up and saw reality.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

comrade, she is just aoc for zoomers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AOC is AOC for zoomers, Greta doesn’t have any power and there’s still some hope for her.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

She just supported people that blown up Nordstream, Kakhovka dam (and a lot of other things), shelled nuclear plant, started and maintain that war and use depleted uranium shells. I would say that even from a strictly ecological point of view she fucked up incredibly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

She's supporting the Ukrainians tho.

Are you actually saying that they did all this to themselves? That's what the Russian state has been saying without credible proof.

Edit: I'd like to see where you got your info.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You're right, it makes much more sense that Russia would destroy their own pipeline which took 10 years to build so that Europe would buy US gas instead. And it makes perfect sense that Russia would destroy a dam they control and flood the defenses they had spent a whole year building, especially considering the Ukrainian counter offensive didn't pan out and most of their soldiers died before ever seeing the fortifications.

There's no proof of that either, but as a good citizen, I believe everything my government tells me. They have my own personal best interests at heart, after all. Especially when they turn away refugees and let them drown in the Mediterranean, I don't know how but I'm sure it protects me.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

To themselves??? None of those were theirs.

Nordstream is Russian-German, not Ukrainian. Sabotaged obviously by USA, though USA claim Ukraine did it. <- note this shit, how they are wriggling themselves as pretzels and Greta is standing between them, supporting both possible perpetrators of that huge multitiered ecological catastrophe.

Kakhovka dam is on territory annexed by Russia and is very important strategic asset for Russia since it protects mainly Russian side and supplies Crimea with water, which is huge problem and was one of the main reasons Russians taken it. Also Ukraine previously already attacked it and they were freely admitting to WaPo they have a plan to blowing it. Also it wouldn't be even first dam blown up by them.

Power plant is also occupied by Russians which had to shut it down because Ukraine was shelling it. Unless you believe the UA info that Russian artilery shelled literally themselves.

Uranium shells are supplied to Ukraine by UK. They will use it in Ukraine, so i guess this is what they do to themselves, it's their kids who gonna be born with plethora of problems. Alternatively, they might bombard Donetsk with it i guess, they are under no illusion this city is theirs and they are routineley showering civilian objests and infrastructure there with cluster mines, and other supposedly rare munitions (weird how they beg around the world for it and then use it on pointless attacks on civilians).

it seem it is you who argue that Russia don't even need an enemy because for some reason they keep attacking and sabotaging themselves all the time.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Show and prove; that's all I have to say about that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Admits? Acknowledging that destroying capitalism is key to addressing the climate catastrophe is like admitting the sky is blue (or orange and smoky, as the case may be).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It would be real weird if she did not conclude this

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