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Whoopi Goldberg argued on “The View” that millennials feel that raising a family and buying a house are out of reach because they simply aren’t working hard enough.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Has anyone else noticed how wild it is that in the service industry, despite the supposed crisis of shortstaffedness, things like McDonald's never have to close locations even temporarily? It was never easy to work at McDonald's yet all the workers pull through every single day with so fewer people to do it all. And they get less for it too. It's beyond me how people could see the current generations as anything but the hardest workers since god knows when.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’d love for someone to just once elaborate on this.

What does it mean to work harder? More hours? Work harder at my current job?

Most people would not be allowed to work at their job for more hours due to overtime limits. Some jobs won’t let people work a second job.

If I work harder at my current job, what’s going to happen? Will they be grateful and just pay me more or will they create a position to promote me?

I don’t get what that means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You wanna know the real answer? Take advantage of others. Cheat, steal, lie, do whatever it takes to get ahead.

Once you have money, you immediately become one of the 'hard workers.' Without it, you'll always be seen as a lazy bum who only has themselves to blame for their position in life.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“Every generation is told, ‘You’re gonna do worse than your parents,’

What? The historical expectation is that every generation will be better off than the last. That hasn't held in recent years, which is a problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

If you're raking in easy TV pundit money, you're going to get out of touch real quick. That's why watching TV is just so weird these days. It's all millionaires that haven't held a normal job in decades saying we're just not working hard enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“I’m sorry — if you only want to work four hours, it’s going to be harder for you to get a house,” she said

What a joke. I spent the better part of the last three years working 70 hour weeks until I burned myself to a crisp. I'm much better off financially than many people my age, yet I am somehow still years away from homeownership and starting a family - if I ever can.

Maybe Whoopi should retire and let a millennial do her job for her pay. Not me; I don't think I'd be able to work as hard as her. 🙄

I wish famous people would just shut up if they're going to say stupid shit. I don't want her tainting my TNG rewatch.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

I don’t want her tainting my TNG rewatch.

That’s when you learn to separate the art from the artist. Gunian has some rather wise words to say; Whoopi says some banal shit at times.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As someone who falls into this category, yes I have a mortgage, yes I have kids, yes it's insanely hard to juggle it all and keep your head above water... I have worked hard since 15 years old with only 2 times since having longer than 2 weeks off consecutively and I just turned 40. My job is fair, but can have long hours, on call, and work on weekends. The salary seems great, but where I live, plus being 2023 it just barely cuts it. As it is now I can get by, but my future for retirement looks pretty bleak right now. My wife has a decade old student loan that's $500 a month and interest has basically kept it there and I have no way to afford paying over that amount which even if I did would still take 10 more years to possibly pay it off so this loan is for life.

So stagnant wages, student loan debt, rising costs on everything, no programs to help middle class, and finally the need for services or certifications that appear to be needed more and more for everything which also takes your money. If I can barely get by I don't want to see how people less fortunate seem to do it... I honestly think about what if I didn't have kids probably weekly because it seems like the better decision for survival. It's messed up that you can do everything right yet still feel so close to failure at any given emergency. So screw her and her so called "hard life". People our age do deserve better and more needs to be done to help. You know how much of a difference it would make if we had free daycare like some other countries? That's just one thing and it would turn my life around tremendously. There is so much that can be done, but it never does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I turn 40 next month and I've done everything right and I'm BARELY keeping up.

I got good grades in school. I did as much community college as I could and then my parents paid for the rest of my bachelor's. I worked hard at my jobs. I put myself through school for another degree so I could move up (and paid for it out of my savings, no loans). I had two kids and went back to work. I paid the crippling $3k a month to have them in daycare. I moved closer family to get their help after school. I drive a modest car and I live in a modest house. I have no vices - no drugs, no alcohol, no gambling. I cook my own food and do my own cleaning. I worked a "side hustle" for most of my 20s and early 30s (writing, making maybe 500-1k a month). I've saved everything I didn't spend on rent, food, and utilities. I've never bought a coffee, or traveled outside the US, or traveled much at all. I am in good health. I married a good partner, and he's a software engineer with no debt.

I literally did everything right, and yet we are behind on savings, we can't afford to repair anything but the absolute essentials on our home, and we're counting the days until we write our last daycare check so we can start... saving for college.

It's hard not to think that shelling out over $140k to the daycare over the past 7 years didn't have something to do with it.

And then there are my 79-year-old parents, watching my husband and I run this treadmill, and scratching their heads in wonder. We have so much less than they did at my age, and yet we have two incomes! How are we not living in absolute luxury?!

What a different world they lived in. Sometimes, when I feel like feeling bad, I remember that my dad's pension pays him more every month than I earn doing my 40 hour a week software developer job. A pension! Imagine being paid while not even working.

(It was definitely the kids that did us in - I often think about how much more secure we would be without the daycare costs.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I have worked hard since 15 years old with only 2 times since having longer than 2 weeks off consecutively and I just turned 40.

Holy Fuck! That sounds like a nightmare. How do you accept everything happening around you?