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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Company i work for already does that. Once youre in, only way out is to clock out. And if you clock out early it has to be on record with management with a return date or badge turned in

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

why the hassle? just give everyone a ball and chain and you don't have to bother with management keeping tabs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Hell, just chain them to their desks.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago

Damn, the amount of people here that love how the owner class manipulates and sucks them dry is shocking.

Banning wfh should be illegal, period. Of course everyone is different and has different needs but keeping people in the building has multiple benefits for his bottom line, not the employees:

  • no room to talk to other companies’ employees and compare
  • no room to think about company policy without being influenced
  • potential to be overheard talking potential union business

While it is great for highly sought after software engineers to be pampered like this, the majority of people arent this and the reason companies do this only for the highly paid is because they are actually valued and might be able to hurt the company if they are unhappy. Opposed to the many people who are less qualified.

This comment section is a harsh example of privileged people being completely out of touch with the reality of their fellow humans.

I‘d be ashamed.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To be honest this isn't a massive departure from the various other non remuneration incentives offered by companies wanting you to be there in person. Silicon Valley has offered this forever. Gyms, cafes, holiday programs for kids etc.

People have different motivators. I don't mind being in the office frequently. I work my hours then clock off. I find it easier to switch off from work when I leave work.

Some people will value it. If you're not one of those people, don't worry, you don't have to work there. It's pretty simple.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have a friend who got his PhD in Australia, in neuroscience. He's got enormous personal debt, his department is chonically underfunded, he has two grad students to his name, and he's got to spend every semester writing these long winded grant proposals to maintain any kind of budget.

Then six months ago, a recruiter from Fudan University reaches out to him. Flies him out to Shanghai, wines him and dines him, shows him around the campus, offers him a $1.5M housing allowance plus $500k salary with another $6M in budget and three other PhDs on his team.

He's moving there in March.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, even if I was offered that I wouldn't touch that shit with a 10 foot pole especially if we're talking about being held captive.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's the "alternative" to captivity. And it's going to lead to businesses that treat talent like this losing their talent to China. Speaking as someone who has also been contacted by numerous (sketchier than the above referenced) Chinese interests.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

People being held captive is in relation to the Perth-based mining company that the article talks about. The person you're replying to is talking about a Shanghai-based university. There's no captivity involved there, afaik.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is all about building your personal life around work, this guy knows that current WFH initiatives are giving people better flexibility for work to fit around their personal lives.

The things he's offering to basically hold his employees captive for the day, are quite decent. I just don't see them being attractive to people long term.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I’m quite lucky to work for a company that measures performance based on results, rather than hours spent in the office.

However, work does offer a heap of incentives to head into the office (similar to this, we have an on-site cafe, restaurants, convenience store, gym, daycare facilities and school holiday activities); as sometimes heading in to collaborate with a team in person is a lot more convenient overall.

What this man is trying to offer is similar, except that by forcing attendance he will never be able to match that culture.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Because he's gonna open little free cafes in all his offices right?... right guys??...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I say we give him a taste of his own advice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

this is the guy in a souls game that shouts out to ask you a favor but when you return after completing it he's dead and there is a bundle of souls and a piece of armour or weapon waiting

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

At least he doesn't chain the employees to their desks

Yet

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