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EDIT: I didn't notice in the original post, the article is from 2023

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/19707239

Researchers have documented an explosion of hate and misinformation on Twitter since the Tesla billionaire took over in October 2022 -- and now experts say communicating about climate science on the social network on which many of them rely is getting harder.

Policies aimed at curbing the deadly effects of climate change are accelerating, prompting a rise in what experts identify as organised resistance by opponents of climate reform.

Peter Gleick, a climate and water specialist with nearly 99,000 followers, announced on May 21 he would no longer post on the platform because it was amplifying racism and sexism.

While he is accustomed to "offensive, personal, ad hominem attacks, up to and including direct physical threats", he told AFP, "in the past few months, since the takeover and changes at Twitter, the amount, vituperativeness, and intensity of abuse has skyrocketed".

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Huh... "vituperative", I like it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I already accepted we’re already dead because oil & gas companies figured how to use doubt and false science to create a confusion among the general public (aided by the mass conservative Murdoch /Boloré media lol)…

It’s like tobacco companies in the 50s but we can’t afford so many years to wake the fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah. I've been mourning the loss of Earth's future for some time now. It's very sad.

That said, we are not in a simple binary fucked vs fine situation. It's a sliding scale. So even though things are very bad, we can always still take action to make them less bad. That is never not an option.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

We should as a community ensure Twitter\X lives forever..

If only as a place to keep certain social media users “entertained”

In all seriousness it does concern me how often I see such a wide variety of news agencies quote Twitter considering the amount of hate that goes on there

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's dangerous. Look at what Fox is doing, as an entertainment company, to US politics across the country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Disastrous, even

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

It's because the news media industry as a whole has stuck with Twitter as their primary social media site. It's kinda hilarious how much they seem to like it and how much time they spend there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's a containment site; has been for a while.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Except the majority of mainstream news outlets use it as a source for 90% of their coverage.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

I am on Mastodon for 5 years now (fuck it is really 5 years since August 2019, what the hell) and just can't get into it. It just feels lonely over there. What am I doing wrong?

Tbh, I think it is the post statistics thing. It says "1 reply", then I click at ot and it has 4 replies and it ALWAYS says "0 favorites" even when 10 people comment how great that post was.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

You need a couple of people to follow, then it’s great! I met most of my Twitter folks on conferences and such. The majority has now moved to Mastodon. It’s mostly programming folks.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

For me, it was the interface. I found it rough around the edges and not as inviting as Twitter used to be. I know it's seen as superficial but UX/UI is important.

Like, for example, to create a post or reply, the input was on the left navigation panel for some reason. I used to have trouble visually separating one post from the next in my head until I got used to it. Also, the way thread comments were nested could've been improved. And why did it only show me the top 5 trending news stories? Why couldn't I browse more? Idk, overall I felt like I was fighting the UI mentally.

I think Lemmy did a better job subtly improving on the details. I didn't see Mastodon doing that much when I was on there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I know it's seen as superficial but UX/UI is important to me.

Most of the people telling you it's superficial are programming nerds who themselves are intimidated by UX design so use cope to justify its trivialness.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I know what you mean. I've had more than one conversation with devs who didn't understand design basics.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

What sort of stuff do you like? Maybe some folks can make some good recommendations to jump-start a more interesting experience.

Recommendations and boosts from other users are how I've discovered interesting people there, and at this point, my feed feels just as full as my old twitter feed.

If you like news, a lot of breaking news is happening on Mastodon much more accurately and faster than on Twitter. There are a LOT of publications on there now, here are a few off the top of my head:

There are a lot more local news sources too, so depending on where you live, you can probably follow news for your specific area. The account @[email protected] regularly bundles up follow suggestions for different regions, interests, and topics. If you go that account and search for a hashtag (i.e., #texas) you'll get a lot of active and high-quality local accounts to follow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The statistics thing is a downside of how Mastodon implements ActivityPub.

Two possibilites:

  1. I think you can simply hide the counts if it irritates you.

  2. You can install Fedifetcher to pull in missing interactions to your local server: https://github.com/nanos/FediFetcher

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Did you use Twitter much before then? Some people just don't like the format. I use it to get updates on some things, but I don't use it as much as Lemmy (or Reddit before that).

If you did use Twitter, perhaps the content you followed back then still didn't make its way to Mastodon (or it went to bluesky/threads?)

Last thing you could try is following more people. I find that fediverse platforms need you to seek out content more actively, while old profit driven social media platforms were constantly seeking engagement. On top of that there just isn't as much content on any of the new platforms compared to the older ones.

That all being said, the quality of the content is equal or better every time

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The dumb masses always eventually follow the smart people. Reddit was full of mostly smart people in the beginning, if you can believe that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

isn't that why the hippie movement ended?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I remember that /r/all was actually pretty educational back in the day. There were specific users that you would know by their user names that always posted something insightful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

And this is why I'm perfectly happy with Lemmy being the size that it is. There certainly are trade-offs - I wish niche communities were bigger - but is it worth bringing in all the other crap that comes in, like all the shit you see on Twitter? No, in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The decline started somewhere around 2011-2013.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I blame Digg for failing. It increased Reddit's popularity too fast, which was a bad thing bringing too many people, fucking up the culture reddit had built (which wasn't much, but it was ours).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh man, in 2024 I never thought I'd see some Reddit oldhead still complaining about the eternal September following Digg's fall...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, that's when I first saw that place. Left surprised that there are still normal forums in the interwebs.

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