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i have no aunt and i dont follow the loner, i am (not really) looking forward to learn what moldy memes are...

oh and fuck ai from the orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

I disagree with the rule banning AI content. Especially the dumb original imgflip AI can just generate super funny dumb captions to classical meme templates, and there is no harm in doing this (you cannot even decide with 100% certainty whether a human or an AI has generated it).
I also used to generate dumb nonsense jokes with the early open source LLMs (long before ChatGPT got released).

I think saying AI content is exploitative in nature is a bit short-sighted and just generalizing about all the different types of AI. If I, e.g. program my own AI to e.g. play a game, and make a meme about that, that's not exploitative. Imitating people's art without their consent is something different though.

I think it would be good to revisit this rule and maybe specify what exact content are not allowed or think about this, since generally there can be good AI meme content (also on a meta-layer, e.g. about people who take obvious fake AI pictures as something real) and just outright banning all of them is a bad idea in my opinion.

this is me voicing my dissent against the moldy posts rule, including restricting them to mondays. unless presented with a very clear set of examples that we can all (or majority) agree on, i think there’s no real utility to the rule and it just makes me afraid to post an image that i find genuinely funny.

on a level of pure aesthetics, it also just has a gross feel and i don’t want to log in on mondays to the word ‘moldy’ all over my feed ☹️

@[email protected] please reconsider this rule or provide more information on the kind of content you intend on removing. i believe this choice to be contra to the spirit of 196.

good choice banning AI tho, thanks for that. 👍

I'm in favor of "Moldy Mondays" as some people have mentioned.

And I support banning AI images, but not when it's like a Twitter screenshot that says something about the image.

I'm indifferent to outdated and AI content.

Personally I don't think it's worth adding more to the rules than needed, especially when there are already people confused about what counts and what doesn't.

I don't like the idea of increasing enforcement against moldy posts, just because I'm not super plugged in to things and I don't always know if something is moldy when I post it. Over enforcement of those kind of subjective rules tends to make it difficult for newbies to post.

Completely on board with a no AI art rule though. Fuck AI.

I've Chuck Tingle posted in the past, so I was concerned that this was going to be an anti-Tingle policy, but fortunately it seems like it's about other things

Not sure about the first change, but I absolutely support the second one. Fuck AI "art"!

Moldy Mondays as another has mentioned is my vote. Ban ai posts though

I'm against banning moldy posting, I agree with banning AI

Most of my contributions are moldy memes so obviously I don't agree with this rule. This would impact the already little effort I put into my posts. And I know effort isn't something we put into 196 but that's my observation. I'm willing to revisit this later.

I support banning AI memes because those require less than zero effort already.

Ah yes, blanket banning things using logic riddled with faulty generalization and facts proven by assertion. Totally not a bad idea! Totally!

i'm not here to contribute to the discussion

i just wanted to say that chuck tingle is treasure to humanity

Totally in favor in banning AI content.

Sometimes moldy content is funny, often times it just doesn't land. Part of my concern with a moldy ban is that it seems a bit vaguely defined as is.

I am painfully unaware if a post might be moldy because I don’t social media much and I like stupid things, so let me know if something I post is moldy and I’ll machete it.

Edit oh and these rules are reasonable I’d say

I feel like both rules suffer from the same problem of spectrum. We can all point to a bad moldy/ai post and point to a good moldy/ai post. The issue is going to be those ones in the grey space between. It’s like the threshold test for obscenity.

"I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that." -Justice Potter Stewart

I agree ai generation can be exploitative, but I don’t believe it’s only exploitative. I’m sure there are fine artists out there who can use it responsibly to make genuine art. I think it’s like the Unity game engine. There are plenty of games pumped out that are just trash trying to make quick money, but there’s also gems being made by people with passion.

I disagree with the anti-AI bandwagon.

I am indifferent to moldy memes.

What if there were like a "moldy Monday" thing instead of an outright ban? I agree with others that they're fun ironically.

Absolutely in favor of banning AI generated content though.

As someone who accidently posted AI generated crap before here without realising it was AI generated:

I'm all for the ban

I'm in favor of the anti AI rule but against the anti moldy posts rule.

Also, could you remove that image from the post, I almost reported the post for "unflagged NSFW" because of it.

Edit: Reported it after an hour for the "unflagged NSFW" maybe that will get their attention on removing the image from the post because there's literally no reason for it to be there.

I am in favor of both of these changes. I always feel lowkey like ive been tricked when i realize im looking at AI art, and the moldy posts just feel like mud to slog through sometimes.