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Pfft.
Feeling like more protests should be happening where netanyahu can see them.. but what do I know 🤷
I'd like it for the protests to have an actionable outcome that helps everyone involved, however this doesn't seem to be the goal of them. Lots of astroturfing, lots of bad-faith arguments.
Keep in mind this is an election year, there's always fuckery and pressure from outside influences during election years.
They're also protesting the republicans, but don't let facts get in the way of you trying to tell everyone that you're superior to people protesting genocide. 😉
They should only be protesting the Gee Oh Pee
They're protesting against genocide, so it's fitting they protest against those who aid genocide. Democrats are currently in power and are fully supporting israel's campaign of genocide, so they deserve to be protested against. If democrats do not want to be protested, they could stop their support for genocide. This does not seem like too much to ask for, right?
Imagine thinking anything would have been different had a Democrat been at the helm when 9/11 happened. Trying to ridicule people of conscience will regularly not go how you expect.
It's actually theorized that Bush being ultimately elected was what caused 9/11 to slip past the usual degree of scrutiny already in place.
The delay in beginning the transition process from Bush suing over the recounts meant that the usual reports on the plans that had been uncovered weren't delivered until whoever had gotten them would be having to prioritize what to look at, and Bush is not famous for his ability to prioritize well.
Had Gore Won, there's a non zero chance he could have been riding into the midterm election cycle on having stopped what would have been the most catastrophic attack on America since Pearl Harbor.
This assumes that the protesters won't vote for Harris come election time.
Protests are important - especially obnoxious, inconvenient ones. If Harris and the general public can't ignore the protesters, Harris is more likely to act on the protested issue instead of sidestepping it.
unless an arms embargo is put into place before the election, I will not be voting for harris. if the PSL is on the ballot in my state, I will be voting for them, otherwise it'll probably be Stein. I'm sure I'm far from the only person with this opinion.
unfortunately, with her responses to Palestinian protestors at her campaign events (the whole "I'm speaking" debacle), and the administration averaging about 1-2 arms shipments to Israel a day since October, I don't see her campaign walking back their stance and imposing an embargo, so she's probably not getting my vote.
If she's serious about wanting to win, I think she needs to pivot hard on Gaza. There are so many that would want to vote for Harris if she just made that change. And I can't blame any of them for it, having pro-genocide be a red-line is completely valid. It's completely insane that Trump can get away with acting like the peace ticket, wtf has happened to the Democratic party since 2016. Somehow it's the pro-war and anti-immigration party now, even though those kind of voters will still ride Republican regardless.
Those centrist voters aren't pro-palestine protesters. They're faux-palestine whiners.
Yeah I'm sure repeatedly saying that Trump is gonna be worse over and over is gonna win over the Palestinian-Americans who's families are still in the region and will continue to be at risk for being killed if nothing is done. And with everyone saying this election will be close leaving those votes on the table and just expecting them to follow along cause at least the Democrats won't directly get involved seems like a bad strategy.
Let them vote Trump then see what happens
They're not voting for Trump, they're just not gonna vote because pretty understandably they don't want to vote for someone who is gonna use the taxes they pay to kill people they know and care about.
They're not voting for trump, they're just not gonna vote.
So voting for trump but trying to justify it by being shit at math.
Signed, a Palestinian America who's grandfather came to the US fleeing the fucking Nakba.
The anti-genocide protestors are pressuring the Democratic party, they are Democratic voters. Only the Democratic party has the opportunity to change policy on Israel. By pivoting and forcing conditional military aid / arms embargo, they can secure an actual ceasefire.
The people who are mad at the protestors, acting as if they're doing it for selfish reasons or secretly want trump to win, are being completely disingenuous. If they cared about ending the genocide in Gaza, they would also be advocating for the end of US directly funding Israel's crimes against humanity, but instead they'd rather complain about the protestors.
Pressuring by threatening to let trump win.
The guy who handed East Jerusalem West Bank and Golan Heights to the enemy.
That's what they're threatening to use as leverage to "pressure" an establishment that's supposedly in bed with the right on this.
People who are threatening to not vote are either zionist agents, or morons that are just as good as zionist agents. Either way, they are of less than no help to my people's struggle.
What is happening is bad, what these "allies" are backing their threat with is so much worse than what is currently happening it can literally only come from a place of not even having been paying attention to the last decade of events playing out in the creeping annexation of Palestine, nevermind the full picture context of what is playing out.
The best help they can be is as voters for Harris and down ballot dems. As boring and in conflict with their fantasy of being in a big march like MLK or dictating the revolution from the bathroom on their phones like Marat as that is.
I share your frustration with the Democratic party, the Republican party, and even American politics as a whole. At least as much as I can, I don't have the same kind of lived experience as someone who's directly connected to victims of western Imperialism. I've only spent the last couple years learning about the real history of Palestine.
If you think the BDS Movement and the Uncommitted Movement are your enemies, I genuinely hope you reconsider. They are the spearhead of pro-palestinian support that has made massive gains in even just the last few months. The pressure is mounting. These kinds of non-violent protests for the liberation of people long oppressed is exactly the kind of protests MLK envisioned and practiced to create genuine change.
I first learned about Palestine from Hasan Piker, here he goes into what the Uncommitted movement in detail. I hope you give it a watch, I think it might change your mind