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Is it weird to be an American interested in Canadian news?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Decouple our economy and politics and then we’ll talk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Literally can not be done. Canada doesn't manufacture enough to become self sufficient (thanks outsourcing).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well, you don't need total autarky. Just a way of running our major sectors over the ocean if we're forced to.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Is he afraid we are going to use it all up? If you don't want the world watching then don't be a godamned circus fire 24/7.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

My mom was watching CNN in her bedroom to watch the trump Train wreck whenever she visited us. We cancelled our cable subscription to get rid of it and we just get OTA local news now.

Really no loss, if a big news event happens it’s still carried live here on Canadian stations.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Americans consume an unhealthy amount of American "news". And food.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

I would absolutely love to stop following American news, and that will happen when I don't have to worry about Trumpf infecting world politics.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

God, tell me about it. My mother watches Fox and gets her opinions of US politics from there with predictable results, and she's even infected my dad with the idiocy, and he's just a sweet guy that's getting radicalized by that bullshit.

It's scary to watch, I can't imagine how people deal with this constant propaganda in the actual US.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Oh down here we mostly just cope however we can. Or get radicalized in whichever direction seems right

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

We cut off our families who watch Fox.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Like it or not, what happens in America ripples through the whole world. Doubly so in Canada because we share a very long border.

Our politicians especially tend to follow the trends that politicians down there set; to the point where we have our own little mini-DeSantis running for Prime Minister.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

our own little mini-DeSantis

the one who wants to de-fund the CBC so that Canadians can consume even less Canadian news.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's the Canadian equivalent of Florida?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Unfortunately Saskatchewan (my province). Alberta next door is Texas, and Saskatchewan wants to be like them, but our government is far far dumber.

Our Mini-Desantis is Pierre Pollieve.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I mean, yeah duh? What, you think that conservative right-wing movement was fully homegrown? Some of them are flying the Confederate flag in Alberta! Hatred is America's export now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Some of them are flying the Confederate flag in Alberta!

Historically Europe (and the British Empire) sided with the confederacy because they saw a united USA as a potential industrial rival, whereas the south was more of a resource colony. Interestingly there was a major class divide in Europe where the working classes were anti-slavery and therefore anti-confederate wheras the upper classes saw the confederate cause being in their interest. There's a book about this called A Cause for All Nations by Don Doyle.

My understanding is that nowadays the confederate flag is used by people outside the USA who are on the fascist end of the spectrum for whom Nazi or fascist symbols are too extreme (or just illegal) in their countries.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

That boat sailed with Murdoch buying out all the news companies and beaming his rags and "news" channels around the western world after he conquered Australia. He used his power to weaken laws that used to hedge against this kind of nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

To be fair its global (eg.US and Hungary). Fascism always has been (eg Germany and Japan)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I’m American and I don’t willingly watch most American news

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We have some great news media, though. I haven't found a good SA or EU or Canadian equivalent for Democracy Now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Never heard of Democracy Now but don't write off CBC just because they're gov funded. As long as you know their bias I've found CBC to be pretty good in delivering factual news. The thing they engage in most is lying by omission - not covering inconvenient topics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How's their coverage of the genocide in Gaza? And the conditions of your prisons? When there's a protest, who do they interview? Do they actually go to the protest and air interviews with protestors?

(Honest questions: I don't watch CBC)

For example, did they publish any interviews with students who were protesting their universities profiting from the Israeli Genocide, making clear what the students demands actually were?

This, I think, is one of the most important things that separates DN from many other news outlets. They focus on giving a voice to those who are often voiceless. When some oppression is taking place, they focus on interviewing the oppressed (eg the students and the prisoners), while most mainstream media mostly just airs interviews with the oppressors (eg the universities and the State).

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (6 children)

They are. As an American I don't get why my Canadian friends are so engaged. It's not right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The US is the greatest threat to all life in the world with their massive Nuclear arsenal. If New York takes an ICBM, it'll affect Toronto and likely Ottawa too.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We are worried about what we would have to do if you guys starts shooting at each other. Like where would we put the refugees.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Just be like us and say "fuck you, fix your own shit in your shithole country! Don't come here and take our jobs!" Hell maybe even start a wall and make Trump pay for it.

We deserve it. :/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah but its an Americans right to take other countries as they need, its in the bloody constitution - and we all know that is equivalent to global law

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Nah man, we are Canada, that's not us. Plus, you're our cousins, we love you guys. We just need to make sure you comply with our language laws.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

To be fair, it's because US politics at the moment is a train-wreck in progress and its hard to look away. Or, more accurately, the US news portrays US politics as a train-wreck in progress, with civil war and right-wing dictatorship just over the horizon. Both political parties and the whole media establishment are literally spending billions of dollars to attract eyeballs, so the drama of US presidential politics is off-the-scale and the whole world is watching, not just Canada.

Canadian politics at the moment is a snooze-fest by comparison. However, when crazy US-style drama does go down in Canada, like when our COVID trucker convoy noisily occupied Ottawa for a few weeks, we were glued to that instead.

For Americans, you can think of Canada as being like Minnesota. Sure, we get a dramatic event every once in a while, but mostly it's boringly reasonable, center-left, earnest, and low-drama.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I treat it like a reality TV show. The characters are pretty engaging and if I acknowledge that it's real life I get depressed

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For instance, half of the content on Lemmy is American politics and news. It can be hard as a non-American to find a good balance of content that’s closer to home.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Half is a bit conservative. For non news/politics stuff, it's a fraction that has anything to do specifically with the USA. If it's news/politics related it's well over 75%

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

We can’t even get our own news on Facebook anymore!

Anyway I think a much bigger problem is the death of local newspapers which has caused people to ignore local politics even more so. Some of our biggest problems in society (housing, lack of community, alienation and depression) can be traced back to terrible decisions made at a municipal level.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Well, Canada is a part of North America so it makes sense

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Watching any American media is toxic to one's health

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

That's ok, so are Americans.