you think this time we might see a bunch of faithless republican electorates?
It's definitely an interesting idea...
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I mean... I don't WANT these asshats feeling welcomed to our side just like I don't want a billionaire talking at the DNC, and I don't want a Republican getting speaking time while others with much more important less ethically reprehensible things to say aren't allowed even 3 minutes on stage.
I want us to win despite these people, with folks like Lena Khan getting more props. I don't want the endorsement of these rats jumping from the sinking R ship to the D ship because they smell some cheddar they might can come nibble on.
an endorsement != theyre setting policy
an endorsement != they're setting policy
You know that... I know that. Do the consultants and millionaire pundits in the beltway at the ears of those in power know that?
I mean... so many of the people on TV seem to LOVE pretending there's some sort of fairy-tale "middle-of-the-road" voter that only wants a little teensy tiny bit of genocide, racism, federal abortion ban, and just a little tiny 0.001% increase in taxes for billionaires... rather than just fascists / fascist apologists (Republican Trump supporters)... and people who don't want fascist bullshit (everyone else).
and if anyone wants anything done in congress, then we're going to need compromise and coalition building because neither party is getting a supermajority any time soon.
No, we don’t need compromise.
No one wants compromise. No one wants the “one time mail-in rebate coupon” version of legislation.
They want simple universal non-means tested policies that work everywhere else in the industrialized 1st world countries that cost billionaires real money that they can easily afford which then provides nearly every other American real tangible life-changing benefits.
No one wants the compromised version of human rights. No one wants the compromised version of medical debt forgiveness. No one wants the compromised version of universal healthcare.
DO NOT compromise AGAIN.
If they wanna join that’s fine, but they come to over to OUR side.
We don’t move to them.
We don’t extend a hand. Biden and Obama did that with McConnell with olive branches like fucking Merrick Garland… and they still slapped the helping compromising hands away.
Please don’t fall for the Lucy football shit yet again.
feel free to tell me how you'll get 67 votes without compromise for single payer healthcare
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If you listened to Harris's acceptance speech at the DNC, its definitely becoming a two-way street with these neocon ghouls. She's accepting their endorsements today. And she's going to start taking their advice tomorrow.
Blah blah Trump Worse Blah blah. But Harris surrounding herself with the Bush/Cheney crowd does not bode well for our foreign policy going into 2025. And I'm not exactly bullshit about our economic prospects when Mr. "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt" is whispering in the next President's ear.
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Your feelings don't matter.
Trump has a 43% favorable rating, and there's a good chance he could win in November.
Even after the Nazis had taken Paris, there were French monarchists who felt they were too good to unite with the Communists in the Resistance.
When the Dems have an unbreakable, veto proof majority in Congress and the Senate, and the White House, then we can start to pick and choose.
When the Dems have an unbreakable, veto proof majority in Congress and the Senate, and the White House
Create an unbreakable veto-proof majority of Romney Staffers and you're going to end up with an unbreakable veto-proof policy written by Romney Staffers.
I haven't seen Harris take a step backwards yet. The Romney folks are accepting her as she is.
I haven’t seen Harris take a step backwards yet.
She's hostile to immigration. She's friendly with corporate finance and the California tech sector. She threw away her platforms on universal health care, higher minimum wage, and educational debt forgiveness to get the VP slot. She's a zealous supporter of the MIC and has yet to find a war she doesn't like. Her brother-in-law is a chief executive at Uber, ffs.
Why would she need to take a step backwards to meet Mitt Romney? They're joined at the hip.
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I know we need to partner with everyone who will join us at the ballot… I just do NOT want the policies being reshaped in order to “better attract” the right-wingers - whose gutting of our already laughable social safety net was a key aspect that made so many increasingly desperate Americans far more vulnerable to demagoguery like that which is constantly espoused by figures like Trump.
The real solution is clearly laid out as history has multiple examples to show.
When people can’t meet their base socioeconomic needs, they are more vulnerable to this shit. So raise the baseline standards such that everyone who isn’t a billionaire is far better off - no medical debt, no student debt, affordable rent and housing, job and financial stability, and being able to afford to have a family.
Do NOT do cuts to our already barely-existing social and economic safety nets.
She's not changing, they are.
i mean look bro i'll welcome whoever admits the faults of the republican party, we've got a low bar set here. We gotta take what we can get you feel me?
actually, on second thought, don't touch me.
Ok how about this :
They can join, but I’d better not hear the D leaders basically saying to Romney and McConnell ilk : “Sit up here, friend! 😘Now you can join us and take the wheel to help us steer our country somewhere better!”
If they don’t want to fuck this up, they’d better say to any of these likely turncoats : “sit down and row ya bilge rat. If I think yer not tryin’ yer damndest or look to not be doing yer part I’ll lock ye cockle shells in irons and toss yer ass as a meat anchor to the bloodthirsty sharks in the depths below.”
they don't exactly have much of an option here. They either support the trump campaign and do a little bit of silly, or they support the dems which won't do much if any silly.
Regardless, any republican willing to fence sit this hard on this election cycle is likely going to be a decent person anyway. They probably won't have a ton of support for the dems, but it's a good sign that we have support from republicans so i'll take what i can get.
I also think it's extremely unlikely that any of them actually get any significant say outside of the standard voting procedure. They're unlikely to line up perfectly, but again, any support is support.
Although i would kill for a pirate impression in the government, not gonna lie.
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Your concerns are valid but all the Rs coming out like this is more about how terrible Trump is and less about anything else. Don’t underestimate how many moderates there are in both parties and these Rs help there - progressives need their votes. After Trump is gone, we can hopefully go back to trying to improve the voting system, pushing Dems more left and hope that anyone on the right exchanges some of their selfinterests for social interests - but that’s best we can dream for.
Adding Republicans won't push the Democrats to the left. It's just going to keep ahoving the overton window further and further to the right.
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