Which client do you use? Desktop is the best working, second android element slow and laggy but fullest implementation so far, worst are element x which they created only to test still draft phase feature speeding up syncing but otherwise half backed. There is no other third party clients which would be significantly complaint with the protocol
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I've tried different clients: Element web, desktop, and android, and FluffyChat desktop and android. The problems seems to come, as other have written, when the matrix.org server is involved: it's people from their handle there which experience glitches joining rooms in other servers. It seems this "part" of the fediverse still needs a lot of development.
Yes, while desktop is mostly working well, other clients are far from being usable. I totally agree with this and choices of matrix foundation are not making it any better imo. Their inventing "new features" and not polishing current ecosystem, is not a best strategic choice
Agree 110%! It's sad because it pushes back those people who were curious about alternatives and were willing to try. Hopefully things will improve with time...
Prose is an extremely good looking crosd platform XMPP client coming out very soon, I'm hoping that will help.
Currently XMPP is my preferred federated messaging platform, but to say the clients are bad would be an understatement
B-b-but the Fediverse told me that XMPP was embrace-extend-extinguished by Google!!?!
it kinda was but it seems to be getting more popular again
the protocol has also changed a huge amount since google used it, but its still quite a small community as far as messaging apps go
Looks very promising! thank you for sharing. Seems worth trying and supporting.
Does it support threads? That's the feature that is usually missing in XMPP clients
Yes it does support but best on desktop. On android only pretty much "legacy" and not anymore worked on element which has performance issues
They are working on that, yes.
But I would rather have no threads than those like Element has... what a mess 🫠
I'm not sure, it might be on their website. I hope so.
Matrix is a protocol, unlike discord. The problems often come with the different clients. I personally suggest fluffychat wherever I go since that is the most usable in my experience. Element I have installed as a backup on all my devices if I need to troubleshoot.
Same as with apple‘s „iforgot“ service: the privilege of privacy comes with responsibility. You must either take care of a couple things yourself or pay someone to do it. On discord, a huge margin of people pays with real money and the rest with their data.
To the topic: Matrix rooms have a version and the server you make them on matters a lot. Therefore I would stay on org if none of you know your way around. If you have skills, make your own and configure it in the most non individual way possible for maximum compatibility. If people cant join even when you invited them, you might have to check if the servers each federate correctly. If not, switch servers or tell your admin.
Edit: you‘ll probably get advice at [email protected]
I didn't know about !matrix, cheers!!
XMPP is the way.
Seconded. Once I installed Cheogram I haven't wanted to open any of my matrix chats
I want to use matrix so bad but matrix clients suck and there's no voice channels like discord
Ive had a better time with good old irc. But I hope matrix takes over...
IRC can actually be quite good. The main problem is the super outdated popular networks like libera.chat, but if your run your own IRC server with modern clients it works nicely (or you can use a good bouncer like Soju). Supplement it with a Mumble or Jitsi-meet server and you got at least a functional equivalent to Discord, even though of course not nearly as polished or easy to use as Discord.
I run it off yunohost which comes with it by default. Im not saying its the best to have servers come with it by default, but I sure use it quite a bit!
That error happens because the room federation sync takes longer than the join client-server request. Just try again.
A bullet proof Matrix UX would be too OP
Matrix is not quite like Discord, but we have Revolt. Try that. It's a discord clone.
It works great for a closed group of people, all on one instance. Another data point that federation is hard.
Matrix definitely has its problems. Recently I've moved to a private matrix install and a lot of the issues I was having went away. I think the matrix.org domain is overloaded and has a bunch of weird errors because of it. If your account or rooms are hosted there and you have issues I'd try running somewhere else and see if you have the same problems.
Like someone else said the clients have issues too. A lot of them don't know how to report the errors they run into so they spit out garbage. There isn't a single client that works perfectly but there are a few that are good enough to use if you aren't using them for mission critical communication. It's stupid but it is what it is.
Discord sucks ass and no one will convince me otherwise. I have no desire to support them and their constant nitro spam. I'd rather use something like matrix and see how it develops.