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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Just kill all of windows already

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Any bet the control panel is the only thing holding my dad back from switching to Linux for home use, because he absolutely hates the windows 10 and 11 settings apps.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So in six months, someone will have written a third-party Windows Control Panel.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Honestly wouldn't even be that difficult to build. Windows is just a GUI for Powershell anyway.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nah it'll just be shoved into PowerToys.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That is good news - I assume they are done with the replacement as they announce this, otherwise they are just stupid. The problem is - why did it take this long time for a trillion dollar company to archive it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

If they are they haven't pushed it to general release yet. Unless someone can point out where in the settings app I can adjust my audio device speaker configuration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Software is really hard. Replacing something that needs to continuously have new features added to it because it's not been replaced yet... You're running to stand still

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

The en-metro-ification continues.

I mean, sticking with a paradigm that existed at least since windows 3.11 (my first version of windows) isn't exactly ideal, entire software stacks are built around it existing.

It's really too bad that Microsoft abandoned Windows Phone, because that is where this UI makes sense. But shoehorning the mistake of windows 8 into everything seems like doubling down on failure.

It would be nice if a competitor entered the space where usability is the goal and be an open source solution.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It would be nice if a competitor entered the space where usability is the goal and be an open source solution.

ReactOS?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

If usability is the goal, then ReactOS is not the answer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

The hero we didn't know we needed.

But have you heard of TempleOS my son?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I have two perfect logo ideas. One with a cute little penguin, the other with smirking gnu. Just spitballing here

E: corrected pitballing to spitballing, which my phone thought was the correct autocorrect...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps this is the year of the Linux desktop?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hope they don't make that update to windows 10 as well 😭 control panel feels faster to use than windows settings

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Half of windows settings is a button that says "additional settings" that opens up the full settings window that hasn't changed since Win95. It's absolutely insane that in a decade they haven't managed to even replicate full functionality.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is never going to happen fully, because there is a ton of software and also device drivers that hook into the OG Control Panel system and install their own .cpl's there, which are required for that hardware/software to work. The system to support those is going to have to remain in place, otherwise Microsoft is going to have a lot of very angry corporate customers and hardware vendors up their noses in short order.

In fact, this is most likely the exact reason the Control Panel still exists behind the scenes the way it does today in Win10 and Win11. They'll probably go to ever-greater lengths to hide it from home users, but I'd doubt they can actually remove it completely at this point.

In fact, from TFA:

Tip: while the Control Panel still exists for compatibility reasons and to provide access to some settings that have not yet migrated, you're encouraged to use the Settings app, whenever possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm sure they could keep the backend and just update the look and UI frontend though, no?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Maybe, but they can't change the look of all those third party .cpl applets.

And sure, anyone could theoretically do anything. But this is Microsoft we're talking about. They'll just put another layer of cruft on top of the five or six layers of cruft they've already got and then call it job done.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The whole point of the Settings "app" is to remove the user's ability to do anything on their own computer. The old (and far more functional) UI of the Control Panel won't get updated because Microsoft wants users to get scared when the unpretty UI appears.

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