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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I'm fairly sure I've seen an NNTP based imageboard that distributed it's content through that protocol and different instances had overlap of boards. That's about the closest match to federated system you're going to find with this model I think. Interesting concept. Not something I'd want to interact with personally though.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It would be hard to federate because there are no accounts, nothing to follow

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not so sure that's true though. If you look at a 4chan threads in some boards, you can recognize the individual anonymous' from the ID next to them.

I suspect it's using either a cookie, or the IP address to track a user and while not storing that info, generating an ID hash from perhaps a unique ID for the thread + their details.

No reason you couldn't federate using the same. But, even without that, each post and comment has a post ID and replies would be tracked that way. Just, you'd need to remember which replies were your own.

The home instance could store for a thread some info about posts/comments from an IP or cookie too and highlight them. But that info wouldn't be federated.

I actually don't think it'd be a problem, really. But, is this something missing from our lives? I'm not so sure.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When you post in a thread you get an ID for that thread. When you post in a different thread you get a different id.

The only way i could see it working is following a particular board on an instance. So I might follow the fitness board on the chan.nz instance and id see all threads pop up and I could open them and view the comments just like on lemmy or mastodon. Actually I think that would work.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

When you post in a thread you get an ID for that thread. When you post in a different thread you get a different id.

That's what I said. You don't need any ID to federate the messages. If you reply to a comment the nesting is based on the comment/post ID and not the usernames.

You couldn't track a users posts after the fact, and I think that's kinda the point.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

What exactly about 4chan are you looking for?

How does 4chan's design differ from traditional forums, really? There's less moderation and more anonymity than you might usually expect, but the very nature of ActivityPub means that aspect doesn't really make as much sense in a federated forum.

So do you just want something like Lemmy but without nested comments or upvoting, and only sorting posts by new and comments by old, the way a traditional forum does? For that you might be able to try LemmyBB which is a front-end to Lemmy that says it's supposed to look like phpBB forums. (Unfortunately I can't verify because the two domains its Readme claims run that software are both no longer active.) Or you could try Morum, forum software based not in ActivityPub but Matrix. There are also plugins for non-federated forum software, like Discourse which aim to enable ActivityPub integration with their forums.

Is there some other feature of 4chan that you want to see?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can make one here that's the entire purpose of fedi.

Anyway, what aspect are you looking for? 4chan is a big place, prolly bigger than fediverse

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also I imagine OP wants 4chan for the users/community and not the format.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

well we got, what we got...

9/10 people can't be bothered to pitch in!

i know y'all mofos got some knowledge and opinions, lurkers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Hey man, I'm all over the comment sections. I am no content creator, just an armchair critic and pundit. The peanut gallery is important too y'know. :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Leave me alone, furiously masturbating in the corner over here.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Lurker checking in to acknowledge my shame. I like that the fediverse has better discourse than reddit and I want to contribute to it. It’s just that I have been a lurker for so long that it’s gonna take some time to start actively engaging.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Sometimes the thread is to old for me to comments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

to me the fact that nobody really cares helps.
Sometimes that same fact makes me delete a whole paragraph but when I do post, i don't stress out about it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was you on other platforms. Managed to participate here a lot more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Thank your for the service!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"hexbear is fediverse 4chan!!!"

has the largest weekly trans megathread in the entire fediverse, a supermajority of non-cishet users, aggressively bans racism, bigotry and transphobia on sight, has hard-coded mandatory pronoun tags

Lmao okay, sure bud

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

4chan has a massive trans community and aggressively racisms and bigotrees on sight. Its the other end of the horseshoe

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok that's not really relevant unless you consider the lgbt community on 4chan to not be extremely bigoted or you consider hexbear to be extremely bigoted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

do you consider hexbear to be extremely bigoted? if so, against who?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

No I don't consider them bigoted hence why I put them on the Otherside of the spectrum

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like someone got bullied for having a bad take and now can't tell the difference between nazis and queers

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

If you enjoy dumb takes and edgy politics it's for you. I'm not surprised someone from ml is defending hexbear tbh.

Not to mention your defense is "you got bullied". Sounds like an awesome place, eh.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

For what it's worth, I am a frequent lurker of hexbear and their users' newspaper archive is wonderful - every politician is full of it and they know it full well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Willing to bet 'dumb takes' and 'edgy politics' exactly describe the correct moral position in the argument you got bullied over your bad takes. Care to elaborate or just gonna hide in the tall grass of hypotheticals and generalizations?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I never said I got bullied. That's you telling everyone your experience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

What similarities are there, other than the users being exceptionally ornery?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Funhouse mirror version but yeah it is pretty similar, never thought about that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

[email protected] is about as close as it gets

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hear some of the old exploding-heads crew is back as hilariouschaos.com

https://hilariouschaos.com/comment/9332

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow, really? I thought HC was just shitpost garbage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I've seen some of the posts and they are pretty skeevy

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Not under any active development

i don't really see the usecase that isn't perfectly covered by lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

One with user blocking and actual moderating of racists/bigots would be interesting