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I remember when I was growing up, tech industry has so many people that were admirable, and you wanted to aspire to be in life. Bill Gates, founders of Google Larry Page, Sergey brin, Steve Jobs (wasn't perfect but on a surface level, he was still at least a pretty decent guy), basically everyone involved in gaming from Xbox to PlayStation and so on, Tom from MySpace... So many admirable people who were actually really great....

Now, people are just trash. Look at Mark Zuckerberg who leads Facebook. Dude is a lizard man, anytime you think he has shown some character growth he does something truly horrible and illegal that he should be thrown in prison for. For example, he's been buying up properties in Hawaii and basically stealing them from the locals. He's basically committing human rights violations by violating the culture of Hawaiian natives and their land deeds that are passed down from generation to generation. He has been systematically stealing them and building a wall on Hawaii, basically a f*cking colonizer. That's what the guy is. I thought he was a good upstanding person until I learned all these things about him

Current CEO of Google is peak dirtbag. Dude has no interest in the company or it's success at all, his only concern is patting his pockets while he is there as CEO, and appeasing the shareholders. He has zero interest in helping or making anyone's life pleasant at the company. Truly a dirtbag in every way.

Current CEO of Home Depot, which I now consider a tech company because they have moved out of retail and into the online space and they are rapidly restructuring their entire business around online sales, that dude is a total piece of work conservative racist. I remember working for this company, This dude's entire focus is eliminating as many people as feasibly possible from working in the store, making their life living heck, does not see people as human beings at all. Just wants to eliminate anyone and everyone they possibly can, think they are a slave labor force

Elon musk, we all know about him, don't need to really say much. Every time you think he's doing something good for society, he proves you wrong And does the worst thing he can possibly do in that situation. It's like he's specifically trying to make the world the worst place possible everyday

Like, damn. What the heck happened to the world? You know? I thought the tech industry was supposed to be filled with these brilliant genius people who are really good for the world...

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

These people have always been bad. Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, Ford, all of them had their issues. The big difference between then and now is the information we have access to. These leaders are more or less forced to live a very public life. We can find all sorts of articles and investigative journalism reports about Elon actually having family money. And when you are rich enough to control the few newspapers, the stories are going to put you in a very good light.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Once you have acquired a certain amount of money and power a cult shows up at your front door with a clone and a video from the grassy knoll. You get in line, or the clone does... That or something about power corrupting, and absolute power corrupting absolutely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

That's a fair question.

I think there's many different - and valid - answers to this, depending on how you look at the question.

I guess you could say that society had a stronger immune system back then to eliminate these bad cells. These days, they run way too freely. It's bad, and i'm not sure whether we need a structural reform or whether we can wriggle through this one.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

This phenomenon is not limited to tech company leaders.

It's a common problem with all large corporations leadership, and gets increasingly worse the larger that corporation becomes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Sadly, in this world you accomplish nothing for being nice and considerate. If you want to leave an impact (anything - a new invention, a new product, a new idea, anything with impact to contemporary culture) you have to bully yourself to the top, including stealing ideas and screwing people over, as well as to exploit people. All "great" people who accomplished something did that: Gates (Microsoft), Jobs (Apple), Musk (Tesla, Twitter), Bezos (Amazon), Thiel (PayPal, Palantir), Zuckerberg (Meta), Huffman (Reddit), as well as many politicans. It's a personality treat.

Here is a video that explains the issue, albeit it focuses on designers:

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Nothing happened. It was always like this. Geeks got unduly put on a pedestal. They got a reputation that was never earned. They're not any different than your typical psychopath executive.

I grew up in a town where a lot of these types of guys have become multimillionaires since 2010s tech boom. One person manages some hundreds of millions of dollars AI investment portfolio. That was before the GPT explosion. I have no idea how big they are now but I wouldn't be surprised if it's billions.

Growing up they were almost all psychopathic. Lying, cheating, backstabbing type of people. Nothing like the timid altruistic geek that pop culture proliferates. The more normal people did not go into tech. The actual timid types have had modest middle class careers in tech.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Success in business (profit) requires exploitation, which requires few or very select morals to reach the very top. Those people you describe sound a perfect fit!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mate, that's the curse of capitalism. Yeah the living standards have improved and all, but the balance of scale tips so much towards the evil doings of these executives and the guys at the top that it doesn't matter how much my living standard increases.

Tech or not, they've always been like this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Living standards have improved for many, but at the expense of others through exploitation. Like you say, an age old story. We're just incredibly lucky to catch a period in the history of mankind where the improvements have benefitted more than just the rich/elite.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 months ago (3 children)

bill gates was like, one of the worst of the worst. Dude literally broke the law, and then settled to avoid paying for acquiring fees.

They have never been good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Was going to say this.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Convicted monopolist. Slimy and dishonest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRelVFm7iJE

His direct influence is in numerous places in the Horrorween Documents.

Screw that guy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

yeah, it's basically this kind of shit from every wealthy business man. Even the fabled Rockefeller was hated for the same reasons, dude controlled 80% of global/american oil refining and people still hated him, even though his product was the market leader.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Dude literally broke the law, and then settled to avoid paying for acquiring fees.

That sounds really tame compared to nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

it's tame, except we're talking like, literally stealing a piece of software or it's design blatantly, settling, and then acquiring the rights in the settlement for much cheaper than they would at market rates.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can look back to Lee Iacocca. The Ford Pintos caught on fire because he sat back at his desk and laughed at the engineers who wanted to add a safety bar back there, the car had to be 2000 dollars no matter what.

Then he was at Chrysler and pioneered the idea that CEOs could set their own bonuses. At the time it was a shocking idea, called unethical.

Now the personal tech world comes along....

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Shitty people like to become olympic power-grabbers.

And they can do a lot of damage so you hear about it. You've heard zero news stories about "ceo doesn't do heinously evil thing", because those don't become stories.

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