I lean toward "efficient entertainment", but I do sometimes wonder what that chunk of my free time would look like otherwise.
But I dont want to cure cancer, I want to make dinosaurs!
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People can spend their time how they want, but when I hear people bragging about spending literally thousands of hours on game X and/or Y, it kind of makes me sad.
That being said, sometimes they're well adjusted and satisfied people and that's just what they want to do with the majority of their free time.
I do hear people make those kind of comments, but then in other conversations I hear them talking about how they're dissatisfied, life is unfair, their life sucks, they can't find a girlfriend, school is stupid, they hate their job, they have no friends, etc., those are the people that make me feel sad.
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This sounds like all of the people who were complaining about comic books back in the day. Or books before that.
I don't like this thing, therefore it's terrible and everyone should hate it and I am not prepared to have a discussion about it.
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The worst thing about (thing I don't like) is that people do it instead of (working towards [goal]).
Why aren't you (working towards [goal]) ?
And yes, I get the whole undertone that this is about people with autism or hyper focus or whatever you want to call it. It doesn't make it any funny.
The tricky thing is that there's less "real" stuff to be done. Take my silly passion for rocks/minerals as an example. Back in the day I would've happily made geological maps but my country has already been fully mapped in detail. Similarly the guy in OP's post can look up the bugs of his area online because they've already been documented. Videogames can give us a sense of exploration and progress that is hard to find in real life these days.
Hey we share an interest!
My family would always say "why don't you do something with minerals?" And usually I say "well there's no job that is just admiring dioptase, and I really don't want to work for the enemy (oil companies)" lol
There are more unanswered questions in science than ever before, but researching them has become less accessible
And then there's the voynich manuscript, an old hoax/fantasy book documenting plants and animals that don't exist, in a made-up language.
That some people have dedicated their lives to "noble" pursuits and others to "wasting time" is entirely a function of who is telling you the story and how much money they stand to make off that other person's work. You get one life, do what you want with it as best you can.
Generations of monks did nothing but pray, work, and copy books for their entire lives. Is that a waste because they weren't writing novels instead? Because every one of them wasn't Mendel, obcessed with growing peas?
Play some video games, work on stuff if you want, or don't. Most people in history worked very hard and have been completely forgotten, all their works erased. With how easy it is to share your work online, you could even be famous for being good at video games (speed running, lore analysis, gimmick runs, etc) which may not change the world but objectively has more impact on more living people than writing small business websites or small farming rice in South Asia.
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Either document beetles, or get REALLLY in to opium
I would imagine every generation had their vices (lack of better word) that previous generations harped on. Why back in my day it was MTV (ok, occasionally they were right). But I’m sure when newspapers came out it was similar to tablets and phones. When tv came out, the radio-heads bitched about the “idiot box”. So on and so forth. Any history buffs out there care to elaborate?
Pastime I think is the correct term.
Thank you very much for sharing that article! t's an awesome read.
You can find newspaper articles from the late 1800s IIRC, that decry the slothful youth wasting all their time reading novels instead of playing outside like the glorious generation before them
Longer than that. 2500 years ago ancient greek philosophers complained about the youth in the same ways.
One of the oldest written works that we have, and can translate, was written centuries before the Roman empire and it is complaining about "kids these days".
This crap has been going on for millennia.
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I run a company that does something very specific for some of the largest companies in the world. Key infrastructure is only functional because of what we do. One of the key skills that differentiate our people from the rest is something I often see in some of the top video game and TCG players. I always wonder, "what if they had focused that weird brain of theirs towards X or Y".
You can't just tell us gamers that and then not tell us how to get that bag
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Do you guys really need some intense clickers?
It is a crap shoot if an autist's fixation winds up being something beneficial to a single soul.
Everything in moderation. It's important to find an outdoor hobby you enjoy and make time for when the weather permits and let video games fill gaps when it's bit suitable.
Fishing kicks ass btw.
I will never understand fishing. You just throw the lure in and fucking wait.
Nah.
You are hunting the right spot, with the right lure, with the right cast and return. You want to match the right gear with the right lure.
I generally do that waiting in a beautiful place chilling with friends. It's the journey not the destination, etc. Although actually catching fish is great as well.
I think hunting and fishing are mostly an excuse for meditation or hanging out with friends. I have some family members in hunting/fishing geographies and they never seem to care whether they actually catch anything.
Well sure but then I could just meditate without the need for an excuse.
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So there's a few different ways of fishing. I also am not a big fan of the bait a hook and wait style. I mostly fish with lures and spinners and this has a different appeal. One, it's far more active. I'll cast and retrieve a lure a few times in five minutes. I'm not sitting around waiting for a bite, I'm trying to make one happen.
That brings me to point two, I get to learn, practice and exercise different techniques while fishing. I'm constantly learning what works and what doesn't under different circumstances. If it's cloudy, I'll throw a particular set of lures vs when it's clear. The water conditions matter, too. Is it clear? Is it murky? Is there a lot of vegetation? I'll also change up how I retrieve a lure to try and better imitate prey fish. Do i retrieve fast? Slow? A combination? Do I wait until I see a fish following it then let it stop for a second to trigger a strike? Will jerking the rod a bit help? All these factor into a decision making process and experimentation element that keeps me engaged.
Three, to put that theory into practice, I have to study the very thing I'm trying to catch. I'm researching the fish I intend to target. What are their behaviors during different times of day? Different seasons? When are they mating and how does this change what they want to eat? And this changes for each fish! So there's a great deal of study that I can do off the water to help improve my success on it.
Four, its simply a great excuse to be outdoors. More often than not, I'm not hoping to get a fish, I'm enjoying the beautiful lake or river I'm at. I'm relishing the hike I took to get here, the exploration and excitement of finding a new fishing spot or even finding out something new about one I've fished dozens of times. Also, to be an effective and conscientious angler, I need to participate in the ecology of the waters I enjoy. I'm as much a part of the environment as the fish I catch and I owe it to myself and them to be a good steward of the land.
Fifth, I also LOVE cooking as a hobby and fishing plays into that in a nice way that I don't feel I need to explain further. I mostly fish catch and release, but sometimes you gut hook a fish and it makes no sense to return it to the water because it'll die. So, now I gotta figure out how to cook this thing.
All that said, there's the rare occasion (usually when I got a few friends with me) that I'll set up a chair, throw out a hook on a bobber with some bait, sit back, sip a beer, and enjoy the weather and conversation with my buddies. Or the peace of nature alone.
But I understand it's not for everyone and that's a-okay. I just think fishing is a fun activity that's fairly inexpensive that a lot of people sleep on because they think it's inactive and boring.
This guy fishes. Glad to see you enjoy it. It is probably quite location dependent. Where I live there are basically no lakes I could go to and fish in peace even if I wanted to.
Meditation.
Okay but I can do that without buying expensive fishing equipment.
Fishing equipment doesn't have to be expensive. I got everything I use off of Ali Express for less than $50 and I got a full set of tackle and lures that'll last me years. I reckon you could spend $25 and have solid equipment that'll have you catching fish for a while.
You don't need expensive gear to catch fish, you don't need name brand stuff. People have been fishing for millenia with very simple tools, fish aren't going to really care you cheaped out on line and got knock off lures.
Location depending, there's probably plenty of local water ways to explore and enjoy, too, you don't need to travel to do it.
Well sure. But there are 4 main issues.
- Meditation itself is free.
- I do not want to spend any money on fishing equipment.
- Where I live you need a fishing permit each day you want to actually fish.
- I dont like eating fish.
Well, I'm not here really trying to sell ya on fishing, I just really enjoy talking about my own hobbies, honestly!
And, of course, different strokes for different folks. Sucks you need a daily license to fish where you are, though. I pay like $10 once a year for a license and money goes to maintaining the ecology of the state and programs to revitalize local fish populations through reintroduction of farmed fish to the wild. We're encouraged to catch certain kinds of fish and report tagged fishes to the state so they can better understand the effectiveness of their programs and we get a little prize for the trouble.
I think a lot of the similar joys of nature of fishing can be achieved through hiking, if that's more your speed, and that needs far less equipment. Sure you can buy fancy gear, but all you really need is a pair of shoes and probably a water bottle.
Don't worry I have mountaineering gear. I just struggle to find time to actually go and do it.
You can also do it without buying an expensive plane ticket but that hasn't stopped the idea of "raw-dogging a flight" from spreading
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I see it as an addiction like gambling. You put in some time but don't always win. That causes a bigger positive feedback for when you do win.
Then the win is a delicious fish and you're hooked.
and you're hooked
Ayyyy
I think there's SOME element of truth to this, but there's a lotta skill that can be applied to fishing. Also, most days I don't even get a nibble but it doesn't bother me. I just enjoy getting on the water and soaking up some sun in beautiful scenery. I'll fish less "productive" waters for a nicer view.
That said, the other week I "caught" a lure I lost last season and that was a bigger rush than some fish I've landed.
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Downhill mountain biking for me. When im injured from throwing myself off something stupid it gives me time to catch up on platinum trophies.
It's funny you mention that circumstance, I finally got around to finishing all three endings and S-ranking most missions of Armored Core 6 while I was recovering from rolling my ankle slipping on a ledge while hiking.
More to the point of the post, I also spent a good bit of time researching the ecology of my local lakes and rivers for summertime for when I estimated my ankle would heal and once I was better I was equipped to get back out on the water.