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The dispute being "they want to move for the other guy, so please stop them, we van only win by cheating!"
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Republicans have always objected to any kind of federal ID. Its wild to me they then use the lack of federal ID to justify their theoretical fears. The second moderates realize republicans have been gaslighting america for like 60 years the party is done:
They create humanitarian crises in venezuela then complain about immigrants.
They drive up the national debt with tax cuts for the worlds wealthiests morons and then complain about the debt.
It's all by design.
A federal id would mean that they can no longer pull this bullshit
This must be some more of that "you won't need to vote anymore" that the GOPs leaders are talking up.
Must be hard to be the party that is only competitive when as few as possible vote.
The SCOTUS abides
As bad as this is, it's only one small part of the MAGA cult's strategy to steal the election. They're not "just" trying to invalidate voter registrations or discourage people from casting ballots; they're also trying to stop the votes that do manage to be cast from being counted and validated.
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There are no less than 70 election deniers working as county election officials in key swing states.
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Georgia's MAGA-controlled elections board is about to approve a rule requiring that any discrepancy between the number of people who voted and a hand count of the number of ballots cast be "investigated" indefinitely -- which means a MAGA poll worker could singlehandedly sabotage the entire precinct's result reporting simply by "accidentally" miscounting.
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They're recruiting 100,000 poll "observers" to be in a position to disrupt and sabotage the vote counting nationwide.
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Preventing states from certifying their votes opens up all sorts of avenues for Trump to steal the Presidency, ranging from being declared the winner by SCOTUS a la Bush v. Gore in 2000, to prevent Congress from certifying the results a la Jan 6, to -- and this is the one I think they're going for this time -- keeping both candidates below 270 EC votes, which throws the decision to a House vote with one vote per state, which would obviously result in low-population MAGA states thwarting the will of the vast majority of the population.
There's a reason why Trump keeps telling his supporters that they won't have to vote anymore and the Project 2025 ghouls are saying that "we are in the process of a second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be": because they are 100% all-in on destroying free and fair elections in this country.
Voting is more essential than ever, but it also will not be enough. Even a landslide for Kamala isn't enough if the states refuse to acknowledge the reality of it! We (and by "we" I mean every American who isn't an outright democracy-hating traitor, regardless of how you feel about Kamala's policy platform) need to figure out some direct countermeasures to the MAGA fascists' schemes and mobilize to implement them -- fast. Otherwise, we're gonna win the popular vote and the Electoral College vote -- at least in factual reality, as confirmed long after the fact -- but Trump is gonna be coronated as a dictator anyway.
I really hope that there are at least some official or public figures who are tasked with the job of doing something about it
That's exactly the problem: the MAGA fascists have been spending 4+ years going all-in on inserting their people into exactly those positions, up to and including SCOTUS. (And I don't just mean SCOTUS' conservative majority in general; I mean three of them literally helped perpetrate Bush v. Gore.) Are there enough non-traitorous officials left to effectively oppose them? I don't know! It sure doesn't seem like it here in Georgia, even despite Raffensperger and Kemp not bending the knee to the cult leader.
I'm also extremely worried that (a) we need to be a bunch of normal people to form an organized resistance that goes well beyond just voting (e.g. to become poll watchers as a counter-balance to the MAGA ones), but also (b) any such tactics (at least ones I can think of) to counter the MAGAs' election disruptions would themselves also be disruptive and thus play into the MAGAs' hands anyway.
In summary:
- If MAGA election officials refuse to certify enough votes, they win.
- If MAGA election observers successfully sabotage the count, they win.
- If MAGA election observers fail to sabotage the count but cause enough disruption to cast it into doubt/get courts involved (either slow-walking it with MAGA judges like Aileen Cannon, or appealing it up to SCOTUS), they win.
- If non-fascist election observers try to intervene to stop MAGA ones, it also causes enough disruption to cast it into doubt/get courts involved and the MAGAs win.
- If non-fascists try to remove MAGAs from being in positions to do these things in the first place, they cry fraud, kick it to the courts, and win.
There apparently are some new rules non-fascist politicians have passed to try to shore up the certification process, but I fear they'll be "too little, too late." (In fact, they're so few that I can't even find a news article to cite about them right now...) As for us regular citizens, there's fuck-all we can do (at least that I can think of) to actively oppose the blatant attempted theft of the election, and instead we can only vote as if nothing is wrong and just sort of hope the MAGAs don't have enough manpower (despite election denialism continuing to spread!) to pull it off even without any interference.
I don't know of any fascist movement in history that has successfully been resisted by acting like it's business as usual in a normal functioning democracy and hoping for the best. But as far as I can tell, that's what we're doing.
the problem with this is anyone who goes along with these plans risks jail etc and any republican pols joining in will deligitimize their own elections. Theres also no guarantee trump will protect these people (rw news called the j6 folks "antifa" at first)
Way too many of the people who tried it last time not only remain at large, but weren't even removed from their positions of trust. It has only emboldened them to try again, harder.
The MAGAs only win if the big blue states play along. I know that's tantamount to civil war, but in the event of blatant election interference they should just refuse to accept the "new" federal government. Peaceful transition of power is a lie if the process is illegitimate.
Start organizing now!
At this point Republicans just need to move to Venezuela so they can feel at home.
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