Scared straight? Scared hate is more what happened. Judge is a douche bag. That shit doesn't work.
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“I wanted this to look and feel very real to her, even though there’s probably no real chance of me putting her in jail. That was my own version of ‘Scared Straight,’” King said, referring to a documentary about teen offenders in New Jersey.
For those unfamiliar, Scared Straight! was roundly debunked after the fact as a stupid fucking thing to do which did the opposite of what it was supposed to, and attendees of the program ended up more likely to reoffend.
They even had a "where are they now" at the end of each program that showed it didn't work.
Put that shitty excuse of a judge in prison so he can reflect on his crimes.
This must be the bad part of Detroit I hear so much about
Probably getting kickbacks from the private prison industry.
All the kids on that field trip learned a valuable lesson that day.
Just not the lesson he intended. Always good to learn that the justice system is against you and will abuse it's power to "make an example" of you.
Teens are constantly sleepy because that’s how teens work. School start times especially make it impossible to for them to get proper sleep. I’d say it’s ridiculous that someone who has authority over teens doesn’t understand the fucking basics of teens but it’s the Us criminal justice system where authority is made up and the credentials don’t matter.
What time does school start where you are?
Middle school kids in my neighborhood catch the bus at 630am., so you know most of them are up 30-45 mins prior.
6:30?!! What the actual fuck lol
Yeah, school starts at 720. It's stupid early.
What time does it finish?
220p
Why doesn't it just start and finish 90 minutes later? What do the kids do once they've finished school and the parents are still in work?
Buses have a lot of ground to cover and a lot of stops to make
Teenagers need 8-10 hours of sleep and don’t get tired until later in the evening, so waking up in time for a 7-8 am start time can compromise their sleep
Thanks for citing for me. This is exactly what I was referring to!
Explains why my elementary school started at 8 but high school started at 9.
I always figured it was just because parents didn’t want to have to fight with us at that age
I don't understand why school has to be a full day either. I'm sure teachers could use an extra hour every morning to do their prep, planning, and grading.
Wow, 9? That must have been nice. I had to get up at 6:30 every day. It was awful and I was always tired until college where I could schedule when classes started.
Rolled out of bed at 8:50 and walked half a block to school
For us it was 7:20 high school, 8:20 elementary, 9:20 middle school. Reason was using the same busses and high schoolers were more likely to need time after school for work or sports/band/after school groups.
In practice it meant that I could pull 40 hour work weeks starting at 16, then by 18 be working some nights till 1-3am and getting up for school in the morning. Stupid decisions were made.
They made laws to further limit the hours kids could work after to try to make healthier opportunities for kids. Unfortunately a certain governor is trying to carve those laws up now. (Desantis)
I would argue that school starting time has nothing to do with the kids needs, and more like that the parents can be in time for work.
And limiting the number of busses on the road at the same time for those other parents stuck in rush hour traffic.
That’s the reason against starting late. Parents want older siblings to be available to babysit after school and employers want a 16 year old’s shift to start at 14:30, not 16:30. Extracurricular activities (which should be supported, as long as the children themselves want to do them and as long as they’re not actively harmful to children) can often run 90-150 minutes with changing time and warmups, which makes a later start time logistically difficult for families with children of various ages who want to eat dinner together.
It’s a complicated issue and a solution which involves shorter school hours seems to me to be the best one, but that’s obviously even harder to implement without cutting things that are important, so I don’t know how to actually solve this problem.
I live in Germany now, which has tracking. This seems both hella classist and better for ensuring kids can get sufficient sleep. I would love to know if any country/school system has figured out how to do it in a way that doesn’t deprive some kids of future opportunities.
Probably could swing the shorter hours by reducing summer vacation.
Take classes to double blocks with an alternating cycle in case classes get too short.
This would anger sports coaches that want to use summer for ~~torturing their kids~~ training camp, and farmers that like the cheaper-than-illegal-immigrants that need summer jobs.
You’re right. I feel like that takes a fundamental part of my childhood away from other kids, but with the child labor laws in some states, that was no longer safe anyway.
Judge Aliyah Sabree, who has the No. 2 leadership post at the court, released a statement Wednesday night, saying King’s conduct “does not reflect the standards we uphold at 36th District Court.”
If someone does a thing and isn't stopped or reprimanded then their actions do reflect the standards because those things happened. If your court lets a judge treat a child like a criminal for falling asleep, that is who you are as a court.
Fuck anyone who says "this isn't who we are" and doesn't actually do anything to prove that is the case.
Michigan district Court judges are elected. You can't just fire an elected official. His term ends January 1, 2027.
So funny story, even elected officials generally have recalls or other methods to reign them in when they are completely out of line.
This judge has been removed from the docket and will undergo training due to this incident. He wasn't removed from office, but he can't do any more damage until he goes through the training.
Fortunately this particular judicial position does require the officeholder to be a licensed attorney in good standing and answerable to the bar, which gives extra disciplinary and training options.
Amazingly, most judges do not have that requirement. In fact, even SCOTUS justices don't have to be attorneys. They all are, but there's not actually a requirement for it.
I want to say that the issue in this case with stopping him is that the other judge wasn't present to alter it. But then you are still right because presumably that other judge is never there to stop this kind of thing.
As if it's just "one bad apple" and if someone else had been there this person would've been reprimanded for this arbitrary scared straight bullshit.
Nah, even if there had been a second judge and they had been there and thought it crazy, they probably still would've defended their judge friend's decision.
You know, like cops do.
I know right?
It's just PR to protect themselves, not about actually doing fuck all about what just transpired. Many people like this show such cowardice to make a difference.
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