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u/LeninMeowMeow moderates a large amount of big subreddits, r/therightcantmeme, r/gamingcirclejerk, r/animememes, r/greenandpleasent (a known russian propaganda subreddit source: Center for European Policy Analysis (think Lemmygrad)) and much more.

Anyways on r/lemmy, he says that lemmy.world is right-wing and thatcherite. I reply that it is more social democratic.

I instantly get banned from the subreddits he moderates and blocked by him. I have not commented or participated in any of their subreddits before, and this is my first ever encounter with them.

Weird and concerning behaviour. I fear that tankies are taking over most left wing spaces on reddit (not that I really use reddit for politics anymore, that’s why I’m on lemmy, but for the implications to our democracies, as a non-negligible chunk of voters are politically influenced by reddit).

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

That's because only yes bots are allowed on reddit now! No seriously, insane amount of generated and copied content.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Careful if you have any Reddit alts. This particular moderator has the ban evasion filter set to the highest sensitivity on all of his subreddits (it's a Reddit feature that flags suspected alts of banned users based on account details and device fingerprinting) and will report every case of suspected ban evasion to the admins. They normally don't care but will look into it if a mod reports it. If you accidentally post on any of his subreddits with an alt the admins will permanently ban all of your accounts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks for the warning but he doesn’t mod the subreddit this discussion was in. I replied with an alt because he blocked me so I couldn’t see his messages anymore.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

"I'm a communist, I can't be a far right conservative!" - Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It’s weird because I also commented in that thread and my comments were arguably more confrontational. But I didn’t get banned for whatever reason.

They did say I would be banned in any socialist space for truthfully talking about the history of Leninism but they didn’t actually do it.

The tankie takeover of online left spaces is a problem but I’m not sure what to do about it. I guess try to politely point out that it’s not just a harmless difference of opinion whenever it comes up in more neutral spaces. Their preferred system means the murder of dissidents. That’s not what left politics should be about. And maybe try to create more open and non-violent left spaces where the truth can be discussed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

not sure what to do about it

Defederation from Hexbear, lemmygrad, and lemmy.ml would be a decent start, but since they have support from the Kremlin/CCP it'll probably turn into ongoing whack-a-mole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What do you mean by support? Like ideological support or more direct support?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

More direct support. I think a large portion of the accounts on those three instances are bot/shill accounts run by the CCP and Kremlin. I suspect the CCP runs lemmygrad and lemmy.ml. Not sure about Hexbear.

To be clear, I generally don't have a problem with Marxists or communists. I think that's a facade used to cover up the propaganda. No intelligent communist or Marxist would support either the Kremlin or CCP at this point.

The fediverse is a fantastic place for propagandists. There's no central censor, absolutely no budget for countering propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No intelligent communist or Marxist would support either the Kremlin or CCP at this point.

Yeah. MLs are neither. It's not necessarily bots, they're just that stupid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Agreed there are real people. Apparently the term is "useful idiots," kind of sad

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Things like the internet research agency (russian keyboard army propaganda organisation ) and chinese equivalents are far more widespread than most imagine

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is there evidence they’re on Lemmy? I find this hard to believe given the anonymity of the platform.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you were trying to influence foreign affairs (like elections) you'd likely LOVE the anonymity.

You can say you're voting for Harris even if you've never left the walled city.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I meant the anonymity of the platform itself, not its users. In other words, most people just don’t know the platform exists, likely including people running bot farms and similar. I’d like to see evidence that this activity is taking place in Lemmy before jumping to conclusions.

Actually Lemmy is probably less anonymous for users than other platforms because you have a bunch of unrelated admins all separately monitoring unusual activity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Impossible to prove or disprove, but grad ML and Hexbear follow the exact leftist ideologies these agencies try to push.

They also push extreme right ideologies too, anything that destabilises and improves relationship with russia china is good for them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

So he’s just against signing up for .world or …? Because my instance is federated with Hexbear (though even we can’t stand grad).

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Tankies gonna tank.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

maybe hexbears and lemmy.grad are trolling on reddit or smth and i have never seen far right stuff on lemmy.world communities

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Those creeps think anyone who disagrees with them are on the far right.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Its an intentional move by whatever authoritarian piece of shit propagandist runs the instance and its bots/shills.

People have started calling them out and those instances have lost most credibility, so they're trying to bring legit instances down to their level and spread confusion.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

A reddit mod being a piece of shit? Say it isn't so! How could this happen?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Any Reddit super moderator who survived the Rexodus bent the knee to Spez and did not maintain closures. They valued their stance as a moderator over others more than the shit getting pulled. He absolutely would have been present for those meetings and message rooms during that time. Anyone like that is not a friend of the average user of any platform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Edit: my client is acting up, putting my comment under the wrong parent comment

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