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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Has anyone else here never actually bought a TV? I've been given 3 perfectly good TVs that relatives were gonna throw out when they upgraded to smart TVs. I love my dumb, free TVs. They do exactly what I need them to and nothing more. I'm going to be really sad when they kick the bucket.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was a given free, very decent, dumb tv and upgraded it to a smart tv with a $5 steam link and ran a cat 6 cable to it from my router. Best $5 ever. Have no intention of buying a new one. If I ever do, I will try my hardest to make sure if it's a dumb one. I know they sell "commercial displays" that are basically a tv with no thrid party apps or a way to install them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I've been using the same two TVs since 2008 and I have zero desire to upgrade.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The performance difference between 1080p and 720p on my computer makes me really question if 4k is worth it. My computer isn't very good because it has an APU and it's actually shocking what will run on it at low res. If I had a GPU that could run 4k I'd just use 1080p and have 120fps all the time.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tldr: Higher resolutions afford greater screen sizes and closer viewing distances

There's a treadmill effect when it comes to higher resolutions

You don't mind the resolution you're used to. When you upgrade the higher resolution will be nicer but then you'll get used to it again and it doesn't really improve the experience

The reason to upgrade to a higher resolution is because you want bigger screens

If you want a TV for a monitor, for instance, you'll want 4k because you're close enough that you'll be and to SEE the pixels otherwise.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

1440p is the sweet spot. Very affordable these days to hit high FPS at 1440 including the monitors you need to drive it.

1080@120 is definitely low budget tier at this point.

Check out the PC Builder YouTube channel. Guy is great at talking gaming PC builds, prices, performance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I don't play games on my TV but I have a really old 1080p one with a native Plex and YouTube apps with no nonsense. I have seen the ads and other stupid bullshit modern tvs come with, I'm going to be fixing this TV up until my dying breath.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It’s funny that we got to retina displays, which were supposed to be the highest resolution you’d ever need for the form factor, and then manufacturers just kept making higher and higher resolutions anyway because Number Go Up. I saw my first 8K laptop around this time and the only notable difference was that the default font size was unreadable.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Televisions are one if the few things that have gotten cheaper and better these last 20 years. Treat yourself and upgrade.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why give up a perfectly usable TV?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But be careful of the "smart" ones. If you have a "dumb" one that is working fine, keep it. I changed mine last year and I don't like the new "smart" one. IDGAF about Netflix and Amazon Prime buttons or apps. And now I'm stuck with a TV that boots. All I want is to use the HDMI input but the TV has to be "on" all the times because it runs android. So if I unplug the TV, it has to boot an entire operating system before it can show you the HDMI input.

I don't use any "smart" feature and I would very much have preferred to buy a "dumb" TV but "smart" ones are actually cheaper now.

Same for my parents. They use OTA with an antenna and their new smart TV has to boot into the tuner mode instead of just... showing TV. Being boomers they are confused as to why a TV boots into a menu where they have to select TV again to use it.

New TVs may be cheap, but it's because of the "smart" "spying" function, and they are so annoying. I really don't like them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah the bootup kills me. I got lucky that my current tv doesn't do it. But man the last one I had took forever to turn on. It's stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Except they turned into trash boxes in the last couple of years. Everything is a smart TV with ad potential and functionality that will eventually be unsupported. I’m holding onto my dumb TVs as long as I can.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

look up "commercial displays" or "commercial tvs" when the time comes.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

We’ve got a pair of LG C1 OLEDs in the house, and the best thing we did was remove any network access whatsoever. Everything is now handled through Apple TVs (for AirPlay, Handoff etc.), but literally any decent media device or console would be an upgrade on what manufacturers bundle in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

well you can just not connect it to the internet and still have some extra features.
also if it's an android tv, it's probably fine (unless you have one with the new google tv dashboard)
these usually don't come with ads or anything except regular google android tracking, and you can just unpin google play movies or whatnot.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Yup. Those cheap TV's are being subsidized by advertisements that are built right in. If you don't need the smart functionality, skip connecting it to the Internet. (If you can. Looking at you Roku TV's!)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

bro i just want full raytracing-

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Think we're still a few gens from that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This will either require AMD to go hard on ray tracing or for console manufacturers to get their video hardware from Nvidia, which will be far more expensive.

Though after some brief searching, my literal terminology may apply to AMD’s strategy: https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/rdna-5-ray-tracing

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (8 children)

4k is the reasonable limit, combined with 120 FPS or so. Beyond that, the returns are extremely diminished and aren't worth truly considering.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

8k makes sense in the era of VR I guess. But for a screen? Meh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even that's a big stretch, haha.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

8k is twice as big as 4k so it would be twice as good. Thanks for coming to my ted talk

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would sure be something if it was noticeably twice as good, haha.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

My 16k monitor is noticeably twice as good as a 4k one /s

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