Hey, comparing Debian to a snail and its shell is unfair.
It's more like a turtle and its shell.
Turtles can actually be surprisingly fast sometimes!
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Gentoo: you compile your mother from source, and then give birth to yourself.
I would have kept with the theme of the comic- fifth panel “Die bitch”
You end up saying something similar to yourself after you read and fail to understand a LKML archive because it's the only available documentation on this specific flag that you may or may not need and if you don't need it why not turn it off. Repeat this many times for much learning (eventually).
It was a great experience but next time I'm building everything not strictly necessary as a module.
“It was a great learning experience” is how I describe working under the worst bosses in my life. Specifically, to people that I can’t be honest with and say how i truly felt.
One of them was just a straight up malignant asshole. The other was chronically absent. She may have had some good reasons for it, but when I had to stop bailing her out because it was getting to 20-30 hours extra entirely without a schedule… and she started lying (and spoofing texts to prove it was my fault…)
Well, suffice it to say “great learning experience” is the polite way of saying “absolute fucking hell”
Arch is unironically easy.
You only need to know two commands:
archinstall
and
sudo pacman -Syu
PS: If my 60 year old mom can do it, anyone can.
Some weeks ago I tried to install Arch on an old laptop, and since it have been many years since I've installed Arch for the last time, and I've heard good things about archinstall, I decided to try it. Nothing fancy: single drive, LXQt, no encryption, auto partitioning...
I tried maybe 4 or 5 times, configuring different settings in the script, and every single time it gave me a broken installation: no GRUB, or no display manager, or incorrect video driver (Intel, no Nvidia here). I supposedly configured all the options correctly, but I never got a working system. In the end I snapped and searched for some video tutorial and installed Arch the old way. I have no desire to use that script again, at least for a long time.
Archinstall works until it doesn't. Recently I tried Luks and BTRFS more than 6 times leading to a script error each and every time. Could I have done something simpler and archinstall work? Possibly. But it offers those things out of the box and for it to fail each and every time ultimately led me back to the wiki to do it manually.
I tried Luks and BTRFS more than 6 times leading to a script error each and every time.
This was actually my experience also, so I went back to a manual install to just get it done. I think the archinstall script won't get any configuration of device-mapper/LVM right (including disk encryption with cryptsetup). The disk encrypt setup had even more hoops to go through than just LVM.
Wasn't able to have luks and lvm installed with arch-install. Maybe it's changed now, but also without the script it's very easy to do.
I installed Arch using archinstall and my system finished with missing KDE and important packages. I was also missing secure boot...
Staying on Debian.
How long ago was that? I have installed Arch with archinstall on ~10 different PCs over the last 4 years without any issues. Maybe I just got lucky, though.
A few days ago.
Problably because I'm used to Debian.
Not an accurate depiction of birds...after the helpless phase birds become fledglings where they leave the nest but are still dependent on their parents for food. Social structures vary a lot by species but many remain with parents for quite some time.
I mean, some bird species have mothers that essentially drop their fledglings to predators to distract from themselves (and their insecurities), or just simply don't feel bothered to actually help raise them to maturity.
True. Some just lay their eggs in someone else's nest and go "good luck!" It's hard to characterize the behavior universally across an entire class. But I wouldn't say what's depicted here is very typical.
It's also, in my experience, very rare for passeriformes to run Arch Linux.
The thing about arch, is that if you have a basic understanding of the terminal and computers, the arch wiki can get from that level to a real expert.
So if you ask me, anyone with a basic understanding of the terminal, and a goal to improve, should go with arch.
Except, if I want that experience again I can just go back to Slackware.
I installed Slackware from 24 floppies I downloaded from a Volkerdings personal server, because I didn't have a CD ROM. I installed using documentation printed on a dot matrix printer that was versions out of date.. It took a day to compile a kernel. I've had to manually patch drivers (3c509 baaabyyy).
I dreamed about a future where I never had to do that again. Arch pisses me off.
Ah the old vortex boomerang. That takes me back.
I admit I did sometimes enjoy a good kernel panic with the Aeeeiiiiiiiii scream in the text. When I was expecting it.
This was my experience just setting it up as dualboot and not doing super much with it. Sure I failed installing it a few times but I came out with more understanding of file systems, and in the end the wiki told me everything I needed to know.
Oh I feel that, the wiki is a god send. Even for none arch related problems at times.
Arch + manpages + wiki is all you need
Can you define a basic understanding of the terminal?
Your basic and my basic could be wildly different.
Having completed "Hacknet", the hit 2015 hacker simulator video game.
(Only half joking)
I played 2 hours of that game. I wondered how close it was to reality. Do those programs that you call in game have real life counterparts?
Mostly yes, but they're in general oversimplified (for obvious reasons)
But it's more about offensive cyber security than necessarily the Linux part. The Linux part is just file system navigation and not much more, the rest is the "hacking" part, and that's what I'm talking about
Disclaimer: I did not complete it, but I got pretty far, and I worked in the cyber security area.
I would however say it's not a good place if you want to learn as that's not really the game's focus. There are better resources out there like overthewire and linuxjourney for that
Know how to use it, understand the basic file system structure, know basic commands (ls, which, cat, mkdir, chmod)
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