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In 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) and its cross-posts, quite a few people said things like "maybe racism is a problem on Mastodon, but I don't see it on Lemmy." Then again, plenty of comments in the various threads were in fact examples of racism on Lemmy, so one takeaway is that at lot of people don't see racism even when they're looking at it. And helpful commenters pointed out some of the other patterns of racism on Lemmy. ... but that wasn't really the thrust of that discussion.

So I wanted to ask more generally, what are some of the examples you've seen of racism on Lemmy? Quotes and links are great, but also feel free just to describe examples or call out more general patterns!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

You are the living embodiment of cringe wokeness and the fact that you're being downvoted even on a left-wing platform where basically everyone is already against racism should make you question some of your life choices.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I haven’t noticed that much racism on lemmy. (I’m not including .ml and grad and hexbear as they are different). Obviously like anywhere, it does exist and your linked post is an example of it.

I have noticed more ableism and sometimes a little (soft) misogyny. But both at a level much lower than reddit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

This is a pretty left-leaning platform, so you don't generally see 'outright' racism.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Again? I’m blocking this fool.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I've not seen any, but I'm also not subscribed to the kind of communities that would be prone to it. I did still manage to get some transphobia directed at me, which is wild because I'm cis.

That's the thing with the fediverse, every instance has a slightly different view of the thing as a whole. That's why picking an instance that aligns with your values matters. You're not going to see much of that on blahaj or beehaw because those users get banned quickly, and problematic instances are defederated as a whole. The matching opposite instances exist too, some are made to be safe heavens for the extreme right, with all the *ism and *phobias going on there.

I recommend people of color to pick instances that supports them, which in turn means they have admins watching their back and shutting down racism quick.

The fediverse will have every problem that plagues other social medias, and it will be worse because unlike Reddit/Twitter, there isn't a centralized authority to say no, that's enough. The only way to deal with it is most big instances saying no and defederating those, but it'll never go away fully, just hidden away.