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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I wish I could get regular vaccinations. They are reserved for older and immuno-compromised people here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Norovirus hit our house hard.. I did pretty much everything I could do to prevent getting it. Lasted 2 weeks while rest of family and kids got sick. Even with vigorous handwashing and N95 being up all night with a baby puking on you... Well, I knew it was coming.

So watch out.THAT is going around, too.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm immunocompromised and still mask indoors. I haven't been sick at all since 2020 and it's awesome! Between 40-60% of people have some form of permanent brain damage and 70-80% have long covid problems from Covid. The damage to the body compounds every time a person gest re-infected, so the numbers are terrifyingly high.

I have a postmortem science degree and it required 4 years of pre-med/pathology. With all that and what we know about the virus, I am honestly not sure I'll stop wearing a mask indoors until we find a cure or better vaccine. I can't stand that politicians are trying to ban masks, essentially sacrificing the elderly, disabled, and ill. A government making medical decisions, creating an environment where a person can't mask up, regardless of if they have cancer and want to stay safe; or if they're severely sick with something else but need to pick up medication at a pharmacy... it's dark. It's fucked up

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Between 40-60% of people have some form of permanent brain damage and 70-80% have long covid problems

Wait what? I'm with you on masking etc., but those numbers seem a bit high, where did you get those from?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Long covid is generally definied as having any symptoms persisiting greater than 6 (?IIRC) months after first detection, so having a niggling cough that hung around that long would count as long covid. Some form of permenant brain damage is incredibly vague and sounds like it would apply to a night of heavy drinking.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was very serious about masking, and noticed that for that two years I never even got a cold. Not once did I test positive and I did it once a week for the first year. So, fist bump for taking masking seriously.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you also not been shaking hands or fist bumping people?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If I do, there’s usually hand sanitizer in my bag. But no one really shakes hands anymore. Dirty habit anyway. We may as well cup each others genitalia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We may as well cup each others genitalia.

If we are clothed then this may be preferable, so long as you don't have a strong handshake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you know some people would. Overly strong grip to show dominance 🙄

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And some enjoy being dominated 😬

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This past week, 1.5% of all deaths in America were caused by Covid. And based on past averages, for every death, one hundred people got sick, and ten people will have long Covid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

1.5% of all deaths in America were caused by COVID excluding those deaths from acute COVID we didn't count for various reasons, and also those deaths that were caused by residual COVID damage and happened after the acute phase.

Excess mortality: "FTFY"

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I still mask everywhere, I don't care what people think.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you waiting for something to change or will you do this for the rest of your life?

I stopped when we had as much vaccine protection as we were going to get and the virus wasn't causing quite as severe disease any more. Forever is a long time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Planning on forever, unless there's some radical changes to our public health response. I haven't had covid yet and I don't really want to start.

I'm fine with never eating out again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm fine with never eating out again.

Yeah, that would be a severe degradation of life for me, so that's a no-go unless the probabilities shift back to where they were in 2020-22ish.

Posting from a restaurant in Sardinia.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

a no-go unless the probabilities shift back to where they were in 2020-22ish.

Even if the odds got worse, I have zero confidence our governments will properly respond, they certainly didn't in 2020.

Frankly eating in all the time was a net positive, I'm in the best shape of my life, while everyone around me is on like their 4th run of covid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Frankly eating in all the time was a net positive, I'm in the best shape of my life

Eating out is a lot better for me after I moved to Italy, so there is that. And living in Italy and having to make do with my own cooking would be Very Sad. But yeah, context matters a lot. The Italians took this stuff very seriously the first time around and vaccination rates were really high when I was neaurotically tracking it. I should look up the annual booster rate.

I don't know where you are, but I'd be less comfortable in an air conditioned eatery in Texas than outside a restaurant in Rome (where I was at the height). And with the current numbers I should probably start avoiding crowds and recirculated air again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I live in the US right now but whenever I've been in Europe I've been able to find outdoor dining somewhere. The US just doesn't have nearly as much outdoor dining and the quality of the food is broadly worse anyways

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have allergies. To covid

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

It is crazy how my allergies improved while using the mask... But I have also read that the mask provoked allergies to other people?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My anecdotal experience: I’ve seen more people I know get COVID in the last month than I ever have, including myself for the first time since 2020, and it’s weird because it’s been the persistently hottest weather I can recall in my area too. Maybe it’s because more people have been staying inside with AC than usual because of that, but I’m still worried about the colder months this year.

It’s good that it seems to be less deadly than it was when it was new, thanks to vaccines, but it’s still an awful experience to get it. I had a different symptom every day for a week, and 2 weeks later I still feel fatigued, like I can’t get enough sleep.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Covid happily spreads outside. A number of the early pandemic super spreader events were outside like football matches. There was a confirmed transmission in Japan over 80metres from an infected jogger to a group standing quite far away so we know it's airborne and highly contagious even outside. Outside can be quite acidic due to pollution and this helps the virus survive as do particles in the air so there is a balance between the density indoors verses degradation conditions, it's a complex picture in the research.

Basic rule, Covid spreads outside since it's airborne and it can persist in the air for at least an hour. UV light can degrade it faster but it also only takes 7 virons to infect someone and we breath out 1000 with each breath.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

This is the 2m spacing rules (and similar) were such bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Almost my entire social circle including myself has gotten COVID in the last two months, independently from each other. It's seriously going around right now in my area. I still mask everywhere, work from home, and have a hand sanitizer station in my entry way. I still managed to catch it recently

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Here in Australia, where it’s currently wet, damp, and cold I’ve not seen much Covid if at all in years.

And I work with children, we get every illness going around.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

♻️ People are getting sick every few months. It's not great all around. We could get lucky evolution hitting a dead end in the immune escape area. Or we have to develop a new vaccine targeting a much more difficult to change part of the virus in order to break this cycle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know what percentage of people got vaccinated last time, but i feel like next time, it's not even gonna be a third of that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is probably true if the hypothetical vaccines are as effective as the first generation. If they have the kind of effectiveness that prevents infection and that immunity doesn't fade, I think the response will change. The value proposition changes completely. It goes from - vaccinate so that you don't get too sick, but you still get sick and you'll need another shot in 6 months, to - vaccinate so you don't have to ever think about getting sick from this.

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