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Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris has narrowed her search for a vice presidential running mate to two finalists, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, three sources with knowledge of the matter said on Monday.

Harris, the U.S. vice president, is expected to announce her selection by Tuesday, ahead of her first scheduled public appearance with her running mate in the evening at Temple University in Philadelphia.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I would'd have a problem with either. But "Harris/Shapiro" sounds like a personal injury law firm, while "Harris/Walz" sounds like some political consultant firm.

Either is better than "Trump/Vance", which just sounds weird.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I don't care who it is. It's time.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She already said the announcement will take place in Philly, so ... 😮‍💨

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Brit here, coming in peace: why was Pete Butt-something not closer in the fight for the running mate slot?

He seems to be fairly sensible, youthful, a bit of charisma about him, and seems like he would represent the country well to outsiders.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Just guessing but:

  1. He's gay and that might turn off some swing voters especially people who are already hesitant about having a black woman at the top of the ticket
  2. He's never won any election beyond a municipal one, so he may be seen as electorally untested.
  3. His resume is a bit thin with just his time as a mayor of a small town and time as the transportation secretary.
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

#1. It's optics and bullshit but it's true.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Excellent question. I think the answer is that the people who choose such things are thinking more about election strategy than job performance. And while I think this is not an issue with anybody who would vote for Harris in the first place, the people making the choice might think that Buttigieg's sexuality hurts election chances? Or maybe because he has young kids at home that he might want to be there for? Idk, I thought he didn't have enough experience when he ran for president, but Biden fucking nailed it by making him Secretary of Transportation. He's killing it and developing much-needed political capital and federal experience to the point that I think he's ready now. He'll have his turn very soon, I'm pretty sure. Potential presidential nominee in 32.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Walz has Bernie's seal of approval

That's all I need to know

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

indeed. Bernie remains a reasonably clean and reasonably clear assessor/signaler. he makes complex political decisions that much easier for voters.

going to miss the golden yardstick of his judgment when he finally bows out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately we'll probably never see the likes of him again

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Warren is also excellent and we have a number of less popular policy wonk politicians around who are extremely driven on specific topics - Whitehouse, as an example, is excellent on climate change.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's going to be fucking Josh Shapiro. sigh

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s gotta be Walz. Shapiro would be a slap in the face to the Arab-American community, which we all very much need the support of if we want to prevent the fascists from winning the presidency.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Walz would be good, just please don't pick Shapiro. Can we avoid shooting ourselves in the foot for once? We've got a good thing going with Kamala.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Do you think Shapiro would lock down PA? I like Walz more from what I know, but seems MN is in the bag regardless. Can’t see the strategy side of his pick other than Walz seems to be the progressive favorite, and checks the old white male box.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think "running mate from state X will lock down state X" deserves as much credence as political parties give it in general.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Neither state is in the bag and no one can lock down PA. Shapiro and Walz are both white males. We are in a not very good timeline no matter what, so I'll try not to worry.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

I don't think Shapiro would lock PA. I think it's pretty likely she could pick him and lose the state or not pick him and win.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Nah, I highly doubt him being the VP pick could win the state alone. I think that Waltz is a better pick as a whole, including PA.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

I don't think he does lock down PA, his approval is solid but nothing crazy. And on top of that he has so many vulnerabilities. School vouchers and protest response, on top of old quotes being dredged out and the potential cover-up of sexual misconduct of one of his aides.

I would have looked at Kelly for his cheap points to score with low information voters (combat decorated Navy captain, astronaut), but Walz is also incredibly popular and has a good track record.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)

She going choose Shapiro because DNC tells her too and fucking hurt her campaign. Goddammit for once do the right thing here Shaprio is a horrible choice that fucking none of us want. Hence why they pick him. Dumb fucking Democrats hate them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

There are some impressively out of touch people making the calls in the democratic party.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

We definitely need any help we can get with PA. If PA goes blue that opens up a few avenues to the White House. Without it I think the only route is taking every single other swing state. Or maybe a surprise flip of a red state.

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