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Hello World!

As we've all known and talked about quite a lot, we previously blocked several piracy-focused communities. These communities, as announced, were:

In our removal announcement, we stated that we will continue to look into this more in detail, and re-allow these communities if and when we deem it safe. It was a solid concern at the time, because we were already receiving takedown requests as well as constant attacks, and didn't want to put our volunteer team at risk. We had zero measures in place, and the tools we had were insufficient to deal with anything at scale.

Well, after back and forth with some very cool people, and starting to have proper measures as well as tooling to protect ourselves, we decided it's time to welcome these communities back again. Long live the IT nerds!

We know it's been a rough ride with everything, and we'd like to thank every one of you who were understanding of us, and stayed with us all the way. Please know that as users, you are what makes this platform what it is, and damned we be if we ever forget it.

With love, and as always, stay safe in the high seas!

Lemmy.world Team

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Lemmy.world sux fuck you pricks.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

piracy has been removed again

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Piracy is a right of the people as far I'm concerned, a way to fight back against corruption

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Never should have blocked them in the first place.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have love/hate relationship with piracy. I love doing it but hate when it's done with my products.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

what are some of your products?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nothing significant till now

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

okay... such as?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Mildly irritating that I've got to manually block those communities... but it's whatever

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Oh no, what a nightmare.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Add it to the list of the other stuff you probably bloc k

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I get what you're trying to say, but at the same time the corps say "fuck our customers". You're a number. They don't want you to have anything and they just want your money. Look at Amazon pulling purchased books from kindle users. And they're not the only ones.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Now please unremove the shroom community as next priority. Empowering open minded people with the option and knowledge to heal themselves through the use of psychadelics (and other kinds of mushrooms that can potentially help fight diseases such as cancer) that they can grow themselves without big pharma and giving them a community to share their advice+experiences is the right thing to do.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Since its Lemmy world its a weird indeed. Mushrooms are not even illegal in like 1/3rd of the world countries and decriminalized/not enforced in the other 3rd. Pretty interesting wiki read actually https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_psilocybin_mushrooms

Any context why it was blocked?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's been a few poisonings lately, including half a dozen people in Australia about 2 months back that may have contributed... orrrr it might just be US law and broad optics.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure the mushrooms used in thr Australian case were magic mushrooms. That'd be more about mycology rather than magic mushrooms we're talking about. Either way banning doesn't make much sense.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh - they definitely weren't magic mushrooms, but people will definitely overlay the general danger of amateur mycology over the risk and (US) illegality over the magic mushrooms.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Next thing we should block any car community. Cars kill people.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I'm glad you guys took a measured approach. This right here is the difference between a corporation and Lemmy. I can't imagine a for-profit reversing its decision in the interest of the community unless it affected their bottom line or stock price. Hats off to the admin team for working through all these complex issues.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How have you determined these communities are no longer a legal concern?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Iโ€™d hope so, because they never were a legal concern

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Hey that's great, good job! I'm so unused to any disappointing decision being reversed, this really is an amazing site.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To all the people saying "too late, I already switched": why bother commenting?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To show what happens if you don't listen to the community before making changes, I'm guessing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

But they are not incentivized to grow numbers exponentially like shareholder funded companies. They make money from community involvement and value-added services. Instead, they removed these type of contents because they felt like those communities needed to reform their overall community personality. In the end, it is all a community effort to help one another. now that users have switched, there is less legal pressure, and the people who moved have helped make these other servers better. It was a win-win for us. I am grateful to all the people who made the move and participated in posting to their respective communities.

Also, this helps lessen the host cost on them. Lastly, a federated community is not the same as these mega corps.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Show me someone who claims to have always been legit and I show you someone who has lied at least once.

I don't mind piracy much but don't rely on it anymore.

But I can perfectly understand if Lemmy wants to distance from Pirate/Warez Sites. Those Sites may cooperate between themselves but not within the Lemmy Backbone.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I think this is the mark of a decent admin team, the ability to re-evaluate a decision based on new or better data. I'm more inclined to stick with lemmy.world in the future, even through decisions I don't necessarily agree with .

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I am fairly sure that good parts of that post are lies, I looked quite close at the situation when it happened and from all I could find those "takedown requests" was a single troll who got banned dbzer0 for their right extreme garbage. You also made claims about unmoderated illegal material in those communities which was simply wrong but I would have understood the move if you explained it like you do here right from the start and it's great to see a mistake reversed! I am not going to pretend that this Federation while not actually illegal can't cause annoyances and it's great to see you reverse it despite that, keep it up! :)

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yet another informative post, and a decision that takes some guts and you're willing to take on some extra work and risk in order to make the instance better

I didn't want to have to do this, but you've brought this upon yourself. You give me no choice but to... donate money to you which you so damn well deserve!

Let this be a reminder that actions have consequences!

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Great stuff, thanks!

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

"Please know that as users, you are what makes this platform what it is, and damned we be if we ever forget it."

A lesson u/spez forgot.

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