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When you buy a new PC—whether a high-end gaming device or an entry-level laptop—you expect it to be clean from the start. However, Windows 11 typically comes with at least a few unwanted pre-installed apps, called bloatware. How should you remove bloatware from your PC?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Reinstall Windows. Always on a new PC.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Uninstall 11 and install 10. Just did it on my son's laptop because he woke up without any ability to use his PS5 controller when nothing was changed in the middle of the night. Windows 11 sucks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Win10Privacy is my go-to to quickly and effectively de-bloat about 80% of Windows 10 or 11.

Downside is that it’s quite powerful, so much so it’s not really meant for non-experts, as you run a very real risk of bricking (or at least crippling) the system with some settings.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wondered if I could find a comment on this post not related to Linux. Nope. Classic Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

There already were comments not related to linux when you posted this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Posting "just use Linux" on the Windows community? How original.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy bros and a giant boner for Linux. Name a more iconic duo.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Pineapple and pizza

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

thatd be a great solutuon though.

windows aint getting better with its antiuser garbage, folks, might as well switch to something ours.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure, just ignore the entire point of the community. Great """solution""" bud

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it is a great solution. I never had to deal with Microsoft bullshit again when I realized no amount of tuning Windows will stop them fom reinstalling all the bloatware next update.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Got computer problems? Just don't use one! Problem solved." ~ umbrella

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

thats not at ALL what i said.

i said you dont have to get assfucked by microsoft to use a computer.

here it is spelled out for you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's a simplified version of your argument. Considering this is the Windows 11 community it's not only just stupid, it's also utterly distasteful, to even bother suggesting Linux.

If you can't understand how this is a simplified version of your 'argument', then that's the core issue. At least try to comprehend how you're in the wrong here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

no, its really not what i'm saying at all.

you are equating using an alternative to not using a computer at all, and it seems to be why you reject the idea that said alternative can be a solution to windows' pervasive issues.

its the mentality that got us here in the first place and since antitrust is not a thing anymore, being actually open to the only alternative is pretty much all we can do to fix it at its roots now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know how else it can be explained.

This. Is. The. WINDOWS 11 COMMUNITY.

It is pointless, moronic, idiotic, stupid, and just plain wrong to bring up an "alternative".

It's simply off-topic.

Want to criticize Windows or Microsoft for their choices regarding Windows 11? Fine. It's on topic. Even though it's like beating a dead horse and you show your boring cult-like following that lacks the comprehension of nuance.

No one here is even claiming that Linux is bad in any way. It just does not belong here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So I coudn't discuss iOS on an Android comm or vice versa?

I can and I did many many times to highlight things that are wrong with one, but that the competitor does inequivocally right.

Fanboyism is the real dumb move. It's completely pointless to moan about the enshitification of Windows without discussing Linux because it has this particular problem solved despite all the valid criticism you could give it. This applies to every set of competing products.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not sure if you're being intentionally dense or not...

Where are you actually criticizing Windows and using Linux as an example of specific criticisms when you just say or advocate for "use Linux instead"? That's not a discussion about Windows criticisms, it's the exact kind of fanboyism you said is a dumb move, which has been my point this whole time so thanks for agreeing with me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Wow you’re an angry little dipshit

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Being mad that Linux would work for more people than who already realize it would?! Super original. Suggestions of Linux are typically universally loved!!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not when it's being shoved down their throat in every other post. Not everyone is interested in switching and answering people's questions with "lol why you not on Linux just switch!" Are a waste of people's time and not likely to get people to really switch. In fact, being pushy will reinforce people deciding NOT to switch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Every other post? It's almost like it's popular. I wonder why? Maybe, it's better. Just maybe.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I never claimed it was a successful strategy. In fact my only point is that people react to it the same way every time. Annoyed. No matter how the message is delivered or when it is

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That is not at all the issue. This is the Windows 11 community. By bringing up Linux it entirely misses the whole point of the community. Not everything has to be about Linux, regardless of your feelings about it. It's like saying "all lives matter".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Microsoft won't stop enshittifying Windows reardless of how you feel about it. Or how unfamiliar Linux feels for you.

You already need an insane amount of scripting just to make it usable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's like saying "all lives matter".

I think this is the worst comparison in human history. Props.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

This right here proves no one cares what you think

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Comment above already mentioned the chris Titus script that thing works like a charm. I use it as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you think that somehow excuses your poor behavior?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

It wasnt that big of a deal in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you do not need CUDA, get an AMD video card, install Linux, enjoy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Comments like this are part of why people don't try Linux.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I use Linux (and Windows) and even I find this kind of thing irritating. I figure if someone wants to know about Linux they'll ask and I will try to be as helpful as I can.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Not really people don't try Linux because of comments like yours. Suggesting an OS which doesn't ship bloat isn't the elitism you think it is

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Windows Debloater worked well for me on 8.1 and 10 but I'm unsure if it's on 11+.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I've also used Shutup10 - https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

and Sophia Scripts - https://github.com/farag2/Sophia-Script-for-Windows

As far fully testing results/removals, I honestly can't say. I CAN say they didn't break anything though, and the PC kept working fine. So.. that's something.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

How do i permanently uninstall edge? Other than just moving to Linux?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So Microsoft was fined a ton of money for making IE uninstallable, and they're now doing that shit again? Surprised, but not really

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We're they fined? I heard they were penalized with nothing. And boy, did they learn a lesson.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yikes... I remembered them being forced by the government to do stuff. I just read about the outcome again and it's so fucked up... Yeah you are right:

At the initial trial, the United States District Court for the District of Columbia ruled that Microsoft's actions constituted unlawful monopolization under Section 2 of the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890,[2] but the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit partially overturned that judgment.[1] The two parties later reached a settlement in which Microsoft agreed to modify some of its business practices.[3]

On November 1, 2001, the DOJ reached an agreement with Microsoft to settle the case. The proposed settlement required Microsoft to share its application programming interfaces with third-party companies and appoint a panel of three people who would have full access to Microsoft's systems, records, and source code for five years in order to ensure compliance.[30] However, the DOJ did not require Microsoft to change any of its code nor did it prevent Microsoft from tying other software with Windows in the future.

Microsoft's obligations under the settlement, as originally drafted, expired on November 12, 2007.[33] However, Microsoft later "agreed to consent to a two-year extension of part of the Final Judgments" dealing with communications protocol licensing, and stated that if the government later wished to extend those aspects of the settlement as far as 2012, it would not object. The government made clear that the extension was intended only to give the relevant part of the settlement "the opportunity to succeed for the period of time it was intended to cover", rather than being due to any "pattern of willful and systematic violations".[34]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp.

So yeah, they agreed to do some stuff temporarily, for the appearance that something was done. They should have been fined a LOT and also forced to allow uninstallation of IE WITHOUT A FUCKING EXPIRATION DATE

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

CTT Windows Utility

Uninstalled it months ago and haven’t seen it since. You can also set updates to only install security updates 4 days after release and feature updates after 2 years of release.

This and StartAllBack are my answers when I hear “just install Linux and ditch windows”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I have some scheduled tasks that make sure it doesn't come back, if you don't go to pretty ridiculous lengths, it'll be back after every update.

My scheduled task largely just nukes the edge directory every time the computer boots and or I log in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I think Windows re-installs it every major update so you'll need to be running a tool to uninstall it each time

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

it does, and it sucks. I think i just live with removing the shortcuts/links and trying to forget about it. My personal PC is linux now, but this is what I do on my wife and kids' computers.