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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Outside of North America, same-store sales slid 7%. In China, Starbucks’ second-largest market, same-store sales tumbled 14% as both average ticket and transactions shrank. Starbucks has faced stiffer competition in China from local coffee shops that undercut the coffee giant on price.

And that is the problem. Starbucks is not offering anything that doesn't already exist. It pretends to be a coffee shop for the upper class because it sounds "sophisticated" to say grande instead of medium.

I no longer go there. I know local coffee shops that offer a much better selection of coffees at a good price. And their atmosphere is authentic.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Americans learning why Starbucks struggles overseas. I'm guessing the maturity of small coffee shops has caught up to the rest of us, so better coffee at better pricing is more abundant.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

Started going to a small local coffee shop a little over two years ago, and I'll never go back to the giant chains. The people working are always happy, greet regulars by name, always go out of their way to interact or talk with me- usually remember something we talked about before, comp my orders every now and then, host little events, etc. It's not just them either - I always have a way better experience going to non-chain coffee places. Oh, and the coffee is always waay better and priced better.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

$3/coffee or some shit. Versus like a buck for a whole fkn pot of coffee at home.

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[–] [email protected] 206 points 4 months ago (11 children)

They should try making good coffee

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (5 children)

They make desserts using coffee as an ingredient. That's why their coffee is shit at being coffee.

Vanilla makes a pancake delicious, but you wouldn't drink it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

And not supporting the RNC.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The coffee is okay, but nowhere close to the price they're asking for.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The pricing is also egregious considering I can make a far better cup at home for less.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 4 months ago (5 children)

You'll always make a better cup of coffee at home for less.

But people pay a little extra for the convenience of not doing it. Starbucks however is banking on their reputation to overcharge, which seems to be finally backfiring.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The coffee is better at home, sure. But I can't make what is essentially a specialty milkshake at home without going out and getting the tools and ingredients.

Sometimes I can have little a of Starbucks, as a treat.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (9 children)

I will never understand people who get drip coffee at Starbucks... back when I got things from there it would just be the occasional over the top milk shake. Starbucks legitimately has the tools to produce ridiculous drinks with far less hassle then it'd take at home.

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