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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (13 children)

I can already hear it...

wEr,E a REpUbLiC nOt A dEMoCrOcy111

Alternatively, with a simple bill we can establish an EC so large or doesn't effectively matter. We would just repeal the inter-war bill freezing the size of the House of Representatives and set the ratio to something that means even Montana gets 20 EC votes.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

this poll may show that Americans want electoral college gone, but if you look at where they answered, you can instead count the answers given by state delegates and then it turns out Americans love the electoral college!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

It's wild that if multiple things we implemented republicans would never win the presidency again.

Any anti voter suppression method, like universal mail in voting

Ranked choice voting

Removal of the electoral college

I am sure there are even more.

Remember that republicans are the minority, they just show up to vote more often (and aren't actively suppressed)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Man what I'd give for ranked choice voting, it seems like a no-brainer

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've been working with local groups trying to get it passed. It may be worth investigating if there are some near you. Donate money or time or support.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

That's awesome! I'll have to look into it

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

The electrical collage is way overdue to be retired. I wonder if we will have the means to actually do it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The way elections are run Is mostly up to the states. The electoral college, though, is stipulated in the Constitution.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So is a method to change the Constitution.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That really is the only way to get rid of the electoral college.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's not exactly true. Each state could choose to give their votes to the candidate that wins the national vote. Then the electoral college system would still exist on paper but in reality wouldn't be relevant to the outcome.

I think it would be better to amend the Constitution. But it's not the only way to make popular vote reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The states changing their electors outside their popular vote is exactly what Trump was trying to do.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting with say....an amendment?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Or we could ratio it out of existence. If we had 10,000 representatives then the EC would match the popular vote results.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They would still win, but they would have to shift their platform to capture the true political center rather than the center right.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So how do we get a constitutional amendment passed to do this?

Especially with the republicans only able to win the presidency through the electoral college. They’re gonna cling to that shit with their dying breath.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can we please just get ranked choice voting

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Would be nice, but I can't see either major political party actually following through with something that hurts their power.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They did it in alaska very recently and now they can undo it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yep, as soon as it became a risk to power it got taken away. It's a treat that will always be dangled and pulled away before it can do anything major.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I meant to write they cant* undo it. They tried already but it didnt work, although there is a repeal effort that has survived some legal challeneges so it will be on the ballot in november, although i doubt it will pass

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You may know this already but, in case you don't, you can edit comments even after submitting them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I do but you had already replied and context is important if an outside reader came along

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