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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (22 children)

Trump is an idiot but I've always wondered why the u.s and mexico don't join up and use the same force on cartels that they do on middle Eastern militants. If they went after cartels the way they do jihadists across the planet, there wouldn't be cartels left

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

We've lent Mexico military assistance before. The issue is that the cartels spring from a fundamental lack of control and governance in the areas in question, which means that foreign military means simply can't fix the problem. At best, it can suppress open symptoms for a few years.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just like there are not jihadists left... oh wait.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It's easier to fight a gang than an ideology. It would work out better I think

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

Not really. Just as killing a person doesn't kill an ideology, killing a person also doesn't kill the profit motives for cartels.

If anything it makes the problem worse. Because you've suddenly freed up territory in a very lucrative black market.

The solution to the drug problem is to instead kill the motivations people have for doing the drugs in the first place:

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/what-does-rat-park-teach-us-about-addiction

This means fixing the housing crisis, guaranteeing people jobs, food, water, shelter, and medical support. It means embracing harm reduction policy. It means ending the war on drugs.

Drug use is a symptom of an unhealthy society. Fix the health of society and the symptoms will disappear, and with it the cartels as well.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

It’s easier to fight a gang than an ideology.

When Bush first went into Iraq, he described it as a Crusade. For some crazy reason, people in the Arab world weren't thrilled with this language.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

Because Americans are too racist to support meaningful cooperation with Mexico.

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[–] [email protected] 209 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The thing about Trump's whole political career that I find most incredible is that just about any one shitty thing he ever did, in isolation, would have been absolutely career ending for anyone else, or in the very least a massive, historically significant scandal. But with him? He just keeps the hits coming, so many disasters in such quick succession that none of them really have time to sink in, there's no time to really examine them because by the time you've really called him out, there's already some other stupid shit taking up the headlines.

Obama wore a tan suit, the News cycle freaked out. Obama asked for Dijon mustard on his burger, the news says he's hopelessly out of touch with the common people. These were SCANDALS in the public eye. Trump proposes just bombing Mexico... we have to go out of our way to point out that this is actually a big deal, because next week he'll have done something else completely insane.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

The media gatekeepers responsible for applying consequences through fatal stories aren't doing it to Trump because they have a vested interest in making sure politics doesn't become boring again.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's partially that he does it so often and partially that many of the claims are so outlandish that no one takes them seriously. Like saying he'll bomb Mexico. On the one hand, "he says lots of shit" and on the other "Ok, he won't REALLY bomb Mexico. He's just saying that. Someone will stop him from bombing Mexico. "

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

The same reason that he can say insane shit and get away with it is the same reason that there's nothing he can really say that undermines Kamala's candidacy.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Anyone got a link to video or audio of this?

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