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Kamala Harris statement on Trump's promise to end democracy (s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com)

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'll tell you all a secret:

Win this for us all and we can do almost the same thing. In four years we could make voting easier. We could collectively push to end gerrymandering and implement a fair and true foundation for a stronger and better system. If Trump and his cronies truly believe they can take down everything that has been built, I bet we can begin building a better tomorrow through the action of each of us as individuals, working together towards a more positive future.

Let's pay to deliver our future and not get robbed to repeat the past.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Also love that she’s factually calling him out as a criminal.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago

I was hoping for 'convicted felon', but I'll take what I can get.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is 'Harris for President' directly connected to her? Or is it just an independent group?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's her campaign team.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Good to know!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

This is exactly the energy I want! Take him to task!

[+] [email protected] -45 points 3 months ago (26 children)

I dunno, guys.

I feel like we pretty much nailed the ending of Democracy when the Democrats argued in court that they're a private corporation and don't have to honor primaries.

What we have isn't a democracy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

So imperfect that we may as well throw the whole thing out then!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Man, how fun must it be to log into the internet dot com and try to convince those that you agree 95% with not to vote against the people you disagree 95% with, or throw their vote away.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Eh... While Hilary and her shills definitely rigged that primary, it took her 8 solid years to get her people into all the positions of power throughout the DNC and state Dem parties so they could shove her down our throats... I don't think her minion infrastructure is still in place like it was then... And I think it was more her controlling the party that made the party undemocratic, than about the party itself actually being fully undemocratic.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know that I agree.

These DNC insiders, more than most, have had a front-row seat for the very public cognitive decline that Joe Biden has displayed over the last 2-3 years, and they crowned him anyway. If he hadn't had that very public break on national television, things would be very different now. They couldn't stage manage his brain melting.

I think they want a useful idiot president they can maneuver around the board every bit as much as the Trump's handlers do.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I picture you typing this comment with a smirk and then taking a sip of coffee. Then to yourself you utter, "Hah! Got 'em", before you hit the save button.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

BotH sIdES

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the republican traitor filth. We must hold the traitors to account.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Where was this posted? I want to be able to open the blue links! I just searched for it and found nothing. There's nothing in the official Whitehouse.gov Briefing Room page. There's nothing on Twitter from her official account (and shame on you for making me go to that shithole to look!)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Campaign material like this would not be on Whitehouse.gov

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

I had the same question. Apparently it was an email newsletter sent via the campaign website, "take action" section.

Links in order

Previously said https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-bloodbath-loses-election-2024-rcna143746

Termination https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html

A lot of people like https://time.com/6972022/donald-trump-transcript-2024-election/

Dictator day one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX0iAmz9iLM

Watch https://x.com/Acyn/status/1817007890496102490

Vowed to end democracy https://x.com/Acyn/status/1817007890496102490

[–] [email protected] 71 points 3 months ago (8 children)

I'm sure Republicans are all going on about how he's "just joking". Sure, that obviously was a joke but it's not like conservatives don't want exactly this – they always hide behind "it was just a joke maaaannn" when the heinous shit they say causes a negative reaction

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't help that Trump's speeches are full of semi-coherent rambling and tangential sentence fragments, and that his entire style has always been to speak entirely in ridiculous hyperbole. It makes it easier for people to interpret statements in whatever way best fits their point of view, because you just get used to filling in the context and reducing his absurd claims down to a vague generality.

I'm sure Trump defenders will argue that he was saying "you won't have to vote" only meant that the next election won't have such high stakes because Trump will fix America's problems and yada yada yada.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I'm sure Trump defenders will argue that he was saying "you won't have to vote" only meant that the next election won't have such high stakes because Trump will fix America's problems and yada yada yada.

I despise the guy but I'm not sure how to say this without sounding like I support him...I honestly think this IS what I think he meant. The dude can't put together coherent sentences. Words just kind of fall out of his mouth.

With that said, eliminating elections is definitely what his puppet masters want so it's kind of a moot point. This is their long game and Trump is just a piece of the puzzle.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Their interpretation is that he was trying to motivate a bunch of old Christians to come out and vote for him so he can fix all the problems with America, and then they can go back to not voting because it'll all be fixed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Christians voting for Trump...sigh.

Look, I'm atheist. But...if you're claiming to be Christian and voting for Trump, what exactly are you worshiping?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing this interpretation. Assuming for a moment that was his actual intent in saying that (I watched the clip several times and I simply could not decipher his actual intent), I would suggest that it should still be essentially campaign-ending to say something so closely resembling a call for the end of elections once you are elected. People should be so repulsed by the idea that it makes all candidates feel obliged to speak carefully and clearly enough to avoid even the insinuation of saying such things.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Ah right, that does sort of make sense

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It wasn't a joke, which we know because they doubled down after failing the 2020 electiom coup.

Yes, they hide behind joking when they say heinous shit like mocking the military or the disabled. They also hide behind it when when they are open about wanting a dictatorship.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Yes this is exactly what I meant. It was said in a manner that they can just claim it was a joke, even when it's clearly not

[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"it's just a joke man....... unless you're cool with it. In which case yeah we're totally serious"

Kinda like joking about having a threesome with your significant other.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

Yup, "haha only joking. Unless…?"

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[–] [email protected] 214 points 3 months ago (5 children)

thank you harris and dems. this is much better than the "he's weird" approach. ratchet up the pressure on the fascism aspect, all the way up, and keep it there

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There's a multi-pronged approach here now.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why not both? "Weird" gets politically disengaged people to notice, then follow up with how a Trump or Republican facist presidency would be dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It also doesn't get as pilloried as Hillary's "deplorables", even if she was right about that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hilary's pillory would make a good title for a book about the 2016 election.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

good point. they have a lot of people of all ages who need to be addressed in their own language

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am so glad Biden stepped down and Harris is actually running the campaign the Dems should have been running since 2016.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think Biden was the best person to run in 2020.

His prior experience with the office + familiarity with world leaders is what allowed him to actually work from day one and also get NATO back together.

Remember that trump didn't hand the power peacefully, was blocking intelligence reports and our relationship with our allies was in the shitter.

Putin started to preparing to invade Ukraine in April 2021 (or at least that's when or intelligence noticed it), putin was certain that Biden won't be able to reunite West on time.

All other 2020 candidates would need some time ramp up as they did not have the same experience.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Biden was a good guy to have on cleanup duty. I think one of the main reasons why the Obama presidency was such a disappointment is that he had to handle cleanup duty at the same time as he was trying to push things forward.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

I am talking about Dems as a whole and the campaigns they should have run, not which candidates were running.

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