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Hello World, As many of you have probably noticed, there is a growing problem on the internet when it comes to undisclosed bias in both amateur and professional reporting. While not every outlet can be like the C-SPAN, or Reuters, we also believe that it's impossible to remove the human element from the news, especially when it concerns, well, humans.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Browsing world after a few weeks:

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The amount of people that can't handle a super basic rating of a news outlet is chilling.

I know and accept that I rely on biased media, because all of it is biased. It's media, not scientific papers (which are also often biased btw.). Having a bias does not automatically make it bad.

I care a lot about factual reporting tho. And I want to see the same news from different POVs, with different biases, because they will highlight different things. If you don't, mute the bot, get your daily dose of whatever propaganda you like so much and stfu.

And no, this is not 'centrism'. I'm pretty sure most people who use that word don't even know what it means. Historically, centrism describes a moderate left-wing view. Centrists are the center of left.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

The authority that is given to this one bot to determine "Facts" is more the issue I think.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

The only bias in my scientific papers is in the data! But we compensate for it and if you approve our next grant we totally promise we'll be able to reduce that bias. So give us more funding pretty please!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bot: Hmm this article reflects reality, thus it is biased to the left.

Using charged language like that constitutes disinformation and is reprehensible. Imagine if viewers started disregarding a source on account of your bot declaring it biased.

Shameful.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's not how the bot works.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

You're right, it just copies a right-wing human's opinion, and blurts it out in a format that takes way too much space, and pretends to be without bias.

You know, ban material.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mods, I appreciate this bot!

Deciphering media bias is tough, and finding 1 site that will 'perfectly' identify biases is an impossible task, but at the minimum having this bot show up on posts 'gets people thinking' about the credibility of their news sources.

MBFC doesn't have to be the ultimate arbitrator either. If it is missing something about a specific article people can call it out in the comments. At the end of the day, the worst thing it does is add more data about a news source and I'm not gonna complain about that.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Reporting the bot will not get you what you want/expect. If you don't like it, you're welcome to block it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We are well aware that the bot can be blocked. The issue that I think a lot of us have here is not the bots existence, but rather the reluctance for the mods to take user feedback into account. Just from looking over the bot comments likes and dislikes it is evident the majority of the community dislikes the bot and administrators are ignoring concerns over it and being defensive. This does not bode well for trust at all for future decisions. The administration's actions are showing that the community has no say in how things operate here, despite being a community platform, evidently in name only.

Please do not take your users for granted. Most of of us left a platform specifically where the administration ignored what the user base as a majority wanted. This is how you destroy your community and any goodwill you've built up with them.

I'm truly intending this in good faith, there is nothing to be gained from alienating your community.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think the bot is crap based on this: The Guardian Media Bias Fact Check Credibility: [Medium]

The guardian is one of the best newspapers on the planet and published content exposing such as the Panama Papers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A timely article about why this type of "rating" is a really bad idea:

The most chilling words today: I’m from NewsGuard and I am here to rate you by Jonathan Turley.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The guy is a Trump / Musk supporter, he's half the problem as it is.

While I have criticized Trump in the past, I have also objected to some of the efforts to impeach or convict him on dubious legal theories.

Yeah, those 34 duuuuubious felony convictions!

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago

Turley has written a lot about the NY trial and his analysis looked ok to me. IANAL of course. But, those convictions didn't seem to change Trump's polling noticeably. We will see what happens with Harris.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hate this and have already blocked the bot.

Comments are obscenely long, and I see no reason to trust your source.

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