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Some people are only paying attention to a tiny part of the debate (lemmy.ca)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

This meme's format could have been better. The contrast between the font and the character kind of loses the punch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I mean, I hope this is true.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

Very well put.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Tankies trying to tank America and Russian trolls.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

These are the leftists influenced by russian astroturfing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Or the astroturfers themselves

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People who think Harris isn't left enough, and won't vote, are helping Trump. It's as easy as that.

[+] [email protected] -14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Ah good, found the "everyone I don't like is a GOP bot" guy before I finished my coffee. Really streamlines my morning.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

~~Ah yes. The good old MAGA crowd, trying to make a black woman president. They also like to volunteer at soup kitchens and give toys to children with disabilities.~~

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Either they drastically edited their comment or you misunderstood it completely. They appear to be saying that the people this post are criticizing are almost all bad actors such as Russian bots.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, you're totally right. They're agreeing with the person above them. That happens so seldom on the internet I was totally unprepared to see it. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I understand. Social media really was a bad idea honestly. But here we are.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Remember when Paul Ryan (I think that was his name, Romney's VP pick) did a photo op at a soup kitchen and one of the line cooks called him out. That was neat.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Lol if anyone thinks fucking Kamala Harris is going to stand up to the zionist lobby. Not that the others will either, but still.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

She has already, but sure let's hear all about how voting is pointless

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What has happened in Gaza over the past nine months is devastating. The images of dead children and desperate hungry people fleeing for safety, sometimes displaced for the second, third or fourth time. We cannot look away in the face of these tragedies. We cannot allow ourselves to become numb to the suffering. And I will not be silent. Let's get the deal done, so we can get a ceasefire to end the war. Let's bring the hostages home. And let's provide much needed relief to the Palestinian people.

This is what Kamala said shortly after a meeting with Netanyahu, which she said brought Israel and Hamas closer to a ceasefire than they've been before. This is what she is doing, while she is Biden's vice president, relies on Biden's campaign money, and still needs Biden's political connections and endorsement. What's she gonna say when she's president and she doesn't need to play nice with Biden anymore? I can't wait to find out.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Biden has also talked a lot about ending the war. Words arent actions.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right, how could I forget. As Vice President, Kamala has direct access to the big red "end the genocide" button.

Name an action a vice president can take that isn't just words.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Im giving you an example of someone that does have the ability to take action saying the same things.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, that makes sense, because Kamala is an 80 year old white man. She's practically his clone.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which of those attributes makes someone unable to stop sending weapons to a genocidal state?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

None of them. It's her conscience that does that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's adorable

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

don't feed the troll

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

I have to tell you that when I saw .ml after your name, my jaw hit the floor. This is unprecedented rhetoric coming from that instance. Just unheard of.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

No shit sherlock. You need to simplify your messaging in practice if you want it to work.

Ex: "Israel is actively spreading the war to Hezbollah and will drag the USA into Lebanon".

Don't say what you care about per se. Say what you know will get the other side to pay attention. Don't double down on useless memes that have limited reach. Find a simpler message with wider reach and run with it. Say less to minimize the possibility of conflicting with your audience's ideology.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The purpose of this meme isn't to make people aware of what continued support for Israel will cause, the purpose is to punch left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The purpose of this ~~meme isn’t to make people aware of what continued support for Israel will cause, the purpose is~~ account is to punch left.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not punching left, I'm punching right. Tankies might be left from your point of view if you're a centrist, but they're right from my point of view as an anarchist.

This meme is making the same point as my last post to this community. https://lemmy.ca/post/25784829

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Tankies are right-wing? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 You cannot be serious. Right?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago

Well, it's easy to believe you're not right of anyone when you refuse to believe in all the billions of people to your left.

[+] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Technically, authoritarian isn't left or right. Authoritarian vs Libertarian is the Y axis on the political map, and Left vs Right is the X axis. It's why tankies are both left wing and authoritarian

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The political compass is fake. If all the spaces that existed on the political compass represented coherent ideologies, then capitalists could be anarchists. But there's no such thing as ancaps, and there's no such thing as authleft. Anarchists are leftists and authoritarians are rightists. The means of production can either be owned by the people or by an owning class. It doesn't matter if the owning class is Capital, the monarchy, or the state. They're all the same.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

This honestly makes a lot more sense to me than that compass ever did. I always felt it was getting at something real, but wasn't a great model of it. I think you probably nailed what reality is here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Well in that case everyone should be able to agree that I'm punching to the right. Except for the tankies who think they're leftists, only agree with the part of the quote on the camera, and think I'm punching left as a result. Mystery solved!