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"MUH LESSER EVIL"

Crazy to think this could be the 8th and final year of the Sanders admin. Would democrats be entirely different people if they didn't have to be so invested in the Trump/Biden dichotomy?

There's no meaningful difference between republicans and democracts because both parties represent the interests of class that holds power in the end. And this isn't just us Marxists saying this, here's what a Princeton study analyzing many decades of US policy concluded:

What do our findings say about democracy in America? They certainly constitute troubling news for advocates of “populistic” democracy, who want governments to respond primarily or exclusively to the policy preferences of their citizens. In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule—at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.

US elections are just a circus with the sole aim of making people feel like they're participating in the political process. Republicans are a brand curated to appeal to social conservative people and Democrats are a brand for socially liberal ones. The goal is to get people to get invested in issues that don't threaten capital and to fight over them. As Parenti so aptly puts it in Blackshirts and Reds:

Seizing upon anything but class, leftists today have developed an array of identity groups centering around ethnic, gender, cultural, and life-style issues. These groups treat their respective grievances as something apart from class struggle, and have almost nothing to say about the increasingly harsh politico-economic class injustices perpe­trated against us all. Identity groups tend to emphasize their distinc­tiveness and their separateness from each other, thus fractionalizing the protest movement. To be sure, they have important contributions to make around issues that are particularly salient to them, issues often overlooked by others. But they also should not downplay their common interests, nor overlook the common class enemy they face. The forces that impose class injustice and economic exploitation are the same ones that propagate racism, sexism, militarism, ecological devastation, homophobia, xenophobia, and the like.

They're both dumbasses and sides of the same coin. The difference is who they consider the biggest threat, Democrats think its Russia while Republicans think its China.

A jury would never convict Trump of keeping classified documents because his fan base is a cult. A jury would never convict Biden of keeping classified documents because he's a kind old man who forgets things sometimes. It's pretty clear who the lesser evil is.

I hope Trump wins if only because I want to see the liberals suffering and seething. It's hardly adequate karma for the genocide of the Palestinian people but it'll be something and maybe just maybe to someone somewhere it will send the message that supporting an open genocide even in the genocidal settler west is a bit too far. It also wrenches the system back and forth which is good. Forces all those Europeans who've been sobbing about NATO and democracy and liberal values and how evil Putler is to either embrace Trump and look like even worse hypocrites or to distance themselves. It won't be enough to destroy NATO naturally but any tension that can be added is good. Trump doesn't wear the mask of respectability Biden does to the world and that's something too which makes me feel it's slightly more positive if he's president in the long game-plan. Liberals won't be in the streets under 4 more years of Biden, they might be under Trump.

Of course nothing much will change either way. There is no lesser evil, only funny evil pedophile war criminal and not funny evil pedophile war criminal who is hidden by his staff and who make all the decisions for him and give him a veneer of respectability. If you're a Marxist you shouldn't vote for either of them. Vote for a communist on your ballot or do a write-in or don't vote at all for a presidential candidate. Amazingly you can just go and vote on local and state ballot initiatives while not putting anything down on the presidential race.

There has been no difference since Carter. Carter was the one who started modern neoliberalism with the idea that inducing a recession would be a good thing to stop run-away inflation, so he worked with the fed to start one.

It went Carter, Reagan, CIA, Clinton. (or, in other words, CIA, CIA, CIA, CIA).

By then, we were cooked, truly no difference in neoliberalism from either party, the cruelty towards the average person domestic and abroad is some sort of special evil.

Someone I follow(ed) on Mastodon was just trying to shame people who don't vote, because of the idea that "Trump is going to immediately round up all us trans people and throw us in camps if you don't vote Biden!!"

As far as I can tell, the claim seems entirely made up, and it feels almost malicious to be basing that entire decision around the idea that "Trump MIGHT come after ME hypothetically!!" rather than all of the people Biden has already thrown in camps and all of the people in Gaza that Biden has given his unconditional support to genociding

It feels downright selfish to still be pushing that "vote blue no matter who" bullshit for that reason, and they clearly haven't learned shit from 2016 and 2020

They're also still under the impression that people choose not to vote just so that they can "push the Democrats more progressive", when it's basically the opposite, people realize they can't push the Democrats left so they're choosing not to participate in the sham they call a "democracy", but I guess this is one of those people who can only see politics within the confines of the US electoral system

Edit: Not to mention all the other shit people have mentioned as having been actively worse under Biden, it makes it feels especially garbage and selfish that one is still pushing the idea of Biden being a human rights savior

Him proposing to end asylum for migrants is objectively worse than anything Trump did on the border.

He keeps saying there are no conditions on support for Isreal. No lib has been able to explain to me what is way worse than "unlimited unconditional funding"

We are currently drilling more oil than any nation in history anywhere ever.

It's literally just lip service and then when a reporter literally asks "are you planning on doing anything other than having conversations" the press secretary gets pissed