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Warning: Lutris discord tolerates far right, racism and genocide apologia (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Today in Lutris discord which I happen to lurk occasionally, I saw some lovely people were commenting in the offtopic channel about how they support Ethan Kleins lawsuit against Youtubers who criticised him, GamerGate bs, defending streamer sex pests and some other stuff. One person offhandedly mentions how they get their information from Asmongold.

If you're not very online, Asmongold is a reactionary streamer who at one point declared he thinks Palestinians should be genocided because of their "inferior culture". Ethan Klein is a somewhat well known youtuber/podcaster who has also spent the last year or so having a very public meltdown over Israel and his own fundamentally contradictory set of positions he's tried to triangulate between.

Seeing this, I made a brief comment about Asmongolds stance mentioned above and why anyone would listen to him. I got racist responses claiming "Palestinians have been kicked out of every culture they've been in" and deflecting to "Look at Egypts border".

Called out the racism and genocide apologia, the only person who was warned was me for not being civil. I replied "racism and genocide apologia is not civil", referred to the fact the Lutris logo on discord has an LGBTQ flag, and was called a nutcase and banned.

tl:dr Lutris discord moderation is OK with racism and genocide, but you're a "nutcase" if you call a spade a spade.

UPDATE: I was responded to on Mastodon and was accused of being the one making antisemtic comments. Others explained in the thread below there were some who made antisemitic comments after I was banned. I sincerely hope that's a misunderstanding, but I don't have much faith the moderator in question would be telling the truth about the events.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Copying my comment from the other thread (they've made a few).

So I got curious about this, and had a look into it.

Firstly, the entire conversation was scrubbed from the chat, and it was done so before the lemmy.ml callout post was discovered/made. So claiming that they're "okay with it" is a bit of a stretch.

The entire discussion seemed to have spawned from this article: https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2025/06/23/h3h3-ethan-klein-sues-three-reaction-streamers/ . I don't know or care enough to say who is right or wrong, but here you go in case anyone wants to look into it.

Apparently, according to a quick search, Asmongold did make some choice comments about Palestine.

What I assumed happened is that people were talking about the lawsuit and someone offhandedly mentioned Asmongold. Then GlacialTurtle decided to go on a long rant about genocide and then was told to cool it. Because obviously anyone that doesn't want to talk about genocide in a server about Linux software is in fact tactily supporting genocide, Turtle doubled down and ended up getting banned. Then they went to their next platform to complain about it, Lemmy, and now here we are two degrees removed from the discussion with no actual receipts.

Somewhat fittingly, earlier yesterday, they were talking about the tragic death/murder of Mikayla Raines.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Copying my comment from the other thread (they’ve made a few).

No, "they" haven't. I have made exactly one thread. Other people may have cross posted elsewhere, but there is exactly one from the person who saw this firsthand, which is me.

Firstly, the entire conversation was scrubbed from the chat, and it was done so before the lemmy.ml callout post was discovered/made. So claiming that they’re “okay with it” is a bit of a stretch.

No, it isn't a stretch, considering I literally described how the only person to get moderated and get called a nutcase was the person calling out racism, which was me.

I don’t know or care enough to say who is right or wrong, but here you go in case anyone wants to look into it.

Yet you still felt the need to comment and make up a bunch of bullshit out of nowhere, as if that's remotely meaningful or irrelevant to anyone looking into it.

What I assumed happened is that people were talking about the lawsuit and someone offhandedly mentioned Asmongold. Then GlacialTurtle decided to go on a long rant about genocide and then was told to cool it. Because obviously anyone that doesn’t want to talk about genocide in a server about Linux software is in fact tactily supporting genocide, Turtle doubled down and ended up getting banned. Then they went to their next platform to complain about it, Lemmy, and now here we are two degrees removed from the discussion with no actual receipts.

None of this happened. You literally invented a whole scenario in your own head just to attack someone, so as to defend something you didn't see, about a topic you admit you don't know anything about, because like so many other dipshits online, you feel the need to spew out a take based on nothing than your own ill-concieved, ill-informed presumptions, because you're a fucking idiot.

What you assumed is irrelevant, because it turns out assumptions can be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If you can provide evidence for what really happened, I'll happily take a look.

And yes, my language was harsh, and I apologise for that. I've just seen people making up drama to discredit communities before, and it gets on my nerves somewhat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

If you can provide evidence for what really happened, I’ll happily take a look.

I wasn't able to get screenshots before I was banned, and the moderator in question very clearly scrubbed the chat to cover the whole thing and whatever other mess other people attested to happening afterwards. The only thing anyone can do is take my word for it, and accounts of some of the other people who posted and saw the aftermath.

I did, however, get accused of making antisemitic remarks, which never happened, but comments were seen being made by others in these comments after I had already been banned. So either the moderator lied, or is terrible at moderating and lumped me in with antisemitic users as an excuse or because they're just that bad at handling moderation.

https://todon.nl/@glacial/114744544014616152

And yes, my language was harsh, and I apologise for that. I’ve just seen people making up drama to discredit communities before, and it gets on my nerves somewhat.

And in response you made up a bunch of bullshit in an effort to discredit me. In other words, you made up drama.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I sent Lutris a DM on Patreon. I've been a patron for almost as long as it has existed. I'd really hate to stop supporting them but if they continue to tolerate racism in their official Discord I will have no choice.

Anyone else who is a patron should consider messaging the project as well.

Edit: Seems like the offending comments have been deleted, which seems appropriate. Hopefully that's the end of it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah i don't mess with Discord. I don't like to experience online racist insanity in real time.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago

discord in general can fuck off and die. unsearchable online and irritating as hell to search within itself, I'm already at max servers and not paying for more, the forum feature is janky as fuck and loses my scroll position, ui is garbage, etc.

I haven't used lutris since it was new, and have been using bottles but I know nothinng about the devs or the community around it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago

...I saw some lovely people were commenting in the offtopic channel about how they support Ethan Kleins lawsuit against Youtubers who criticised him, GamerGate bs, defending streamer sex pests and some other stuff. One person offhandedly mentions how they get their information from Asmongold.

Damn. That's not just reactionary: it's the cringiest type of reactionary one can be in this moment. I hope Heroic Game Launcher doesn't also have this kind of cringe going on.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are the Lutris devs responsible for the Discord or is it unofficial? If they're in charge then this is really concerning.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

At the very least it's linked directly from their homepage and their masto page: https://fosstodon.org/@lutris

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who moderates the discord? the main lutris dev?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think so? I didn't think to grab the username before I was kicked. But the discord is linked on the website and their masto page, invite link works, so people can probably see for themselves (offtopic channel).

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I went and snooped to see what happened. Doogie (M.D.) seems to be the one who did it. They deleted everything you posted and talked about it for a bit. There are a couple of boot lickers who praised them. Some others have come in to pick a fight with them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They deleted everything you posted and talked about it for a bit.

Of course they did, first rule of every bad moderator is immediately deleting shit. Did they leave the other responses up? Someone specifically said something along the lines of "Palestinians were kicked out of every culture".

Some others have come in to pick a fight with them.

To push back on their racist shit? If so, then based, as they say.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

No, I think they might've deleted other comments, too. There is a guy trying to get banned it seems by throwing around antisemitic speech. It's just chaos.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let me guess. Anti semetic speech means they said israelis are evil?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

i was there when it happened. it was actual antisemitism (calling a jewish person the k slur, mentioning how jewish people have been expelled from several countries as some sort of sign that antisemitism is correct, implying that every jewish person supports the gaza genocide, etc). and on top of it all they went into another channel when said jewish person they called a slur pushed back, to call them the r slur. if only it were just someone saying israel is bad and shouldnt exist. 🙃

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Which I guess is a very good demonstration of why you don't let that shit fester or you get people like that thinking they're welcome. Would you be willing to maybe send me some screenshots? (be careful there's no personally identifying information in them)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They cleaned the chat

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

I guess damage control after what resplendent said, seeing as the stuff I mentioned as prompting a response from me I'm pretty sure had been up for a while and had a response from the mod already with no action (nothing about topics being inappropriate or anything like that, no actual moderation was done at the time). It was only me saying anything that prompted any reaction.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago

Discord is a cesspool overall, the only thing useful is when a """"""""server"""""" has the announcement thing that you can follow in your own """""""server"""""".

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry you had that experience. Discord moderating is all over the place in most Discords, it can be hard to find a decent one. I received a warning recently for sharing a link that had a curse word in the URL with a very popular Linux Discord where I see double standards as well. I joined the Lutris Discord server awhile back but never found good conversation so I just ignore it at this point. Their logo is ironic considering your experience.

BTW, you are not a nutcase and do not deserve to be banned for calling them out.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

BTW, you are not a nutcase and do not deserve to be banned for calling them out.

With my experience over the last year, it's nice for once for someone to not just be like "Ohh so you think Hamas is good???" and all that bullshit for once.

Seeing far right adjacent shit go unchallenged is difficult for me to ignore, even moreso when they then just casually engage in racist rhetoric against Palestinians to excuse literal genocidal language. Was never really active in the discord until seeing that shit just being left alone to fester, and clearly it has the approval of whoever is left to mod there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

it's nice for once for someone to not just be like "Ohh so you think Hamas is good???

Fascists like that are always just gonna accuse you of being the enemy/a communist/a terrorist/a pedophile/russian/chinese when they can't defend their own monstrous crimes

I've just started hittin em preemptively with the