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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Shipped in Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 26052. https://www.tiraniddo.dev/2024/02/sudo-on-windows-quick-rundown.html claims it has a big security problem that makes the program accept calls to elevate from anywhere once first run

Edit:

  1. The security problem has been internally fixed and will be available in the next release
  2. It's not just an alias for 'runas'. It seems to be able to configurably block user input for sudo'd commands, retain the existing environment, ditch it and open a new window, and remember that you've sudo'd in the last minute or so.
  3. It brings up UAC instead of having you input the password
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

looks like shit thanks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

"Substitute user do", most commonly used on Linux to run your command as superuser (think admin mode on Windows)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

That still sounds so weird, as opposed to the old “super user do”.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Ah, I understand, thanks

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Finally! The day I've been waiting for so long. Goodbye Linux, hello Windows!

- nobody ever

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In your mind, do you really think that is the intention here? Seems more like a convenience for people who use both Linux and Windows.

I have to use both so I welcome it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Seriously. My home PC runs Linux primarily, but I sysadmin both Windows and Linux at work and this will be very convenient. Forgetting to run PowerShell as admin is always frustrating, especially when I have the commands and variables already established.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, so yea just a "better" version of runas. I can see it being a bit easier when you just need to do the one thing as admin, but overall just opening an admin windows is still going to be the best way.

I really think the security issues makes it not worth enabling.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yep. It's basically an alias for:

runas /user:administrator

If you want to open a new command line window with admin privs you can always do:

runas /user: administrator CMD.exe

Which is of course on Linux this would kinda be like running:

sudo su
[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not just an alias. It seems to be able to configurably block user input for sudo'd commands, retain the existing environment, ditch it and open a new window, and remember that you've sudo'd in the last minute or so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Tell me it has a better configuration format than sudo.

(I've ditched sudo for OpenBSD 'doas' across the board ever since it made its way into debian's repos)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

better configuration format

Well, there's only three choices to choose from and set through a command, soooo...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also switched to doas on Arch. Works great.

I wonder if "please" is nice too, but it's such a long word to type.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

and i'm thinking about switching to doas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Honest question: what am I missing out on with sudo?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Would love to use a smaller, single-user multi-account, version of sudo. If (on Debian based) doas can remember I entered the password a command ago in the same bash terminal, and had more adoption/eyes on it, then I'd use it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Its much lighter, sudo goes outside of its intended purpose

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Install Linux already, get it over with. Windows has been and still is a sad joke, why pay for that crap?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Because business uses Windows services, which are, by far, the most common. And when collaborating and sharing files is essential this is a major deal breaker. I love *nix but it just wouldn’t work as well in the business world until there are wide spread services that replicate or do better than what Microsoft does with enterprise support and pricing in mind.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Sure, tell my corporate overlords to do that, on thousands of computers across the globe.

At home i can do what I want, at work I have to bow down.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can get a legit Windows 11 key for like 5 bucks, no reason not to install it honestly. Even if only for dual booting, it can save you a lot of headaches.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Soooo revolutionary and unique like Phone Link

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