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It seems like we went extended family ๐Ÿ‘‰ nuclear family ๐Ÿ‘‰ lonely atomisation

But history isn't inevitable trends. Any signs community might grow/strengthen in the future?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Elon Musk lives with his mother and children.

Probably not the ray of hope you were looking for, but there you go.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Yes, but it requires moving away from the automobile as the primary form of transit, and shifting the balance of labor relations more towards workers. The main antagonist of extended families is the expectation that skilled workers relocate for jobs.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Do what I did, build, buy, or rent a house that your parents can reside in as well (ideally with privacy for everyone) instead of looking at retirement homes.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

As others have said, community isn't family.

Honestly, a lot of what kept a lot of extended families together in the past was economic necessity. People needed a group to depend on and the family unit was the initial group to do so. You'd forgive a lot of what your family members did as family cohesion was more economically important than morality.

Some people will say this is only a product of capitalism, but this is also a communist issue as well. If the economy can provide for everyone, then the economic need for the family is removed. In contrast, familial ties in capitalist structures are usually when everyone is very poor and no one has the means to sever familial ties.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We should ask the Multivac if the decay of the extended family can be reversed.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I presume that is some kind of hoover

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Any signs community might grow/strengthen in the future?

Community and extended family are different things.

Community is a choice blood doesn't specify. You can choose or find yourself lucky enough to live in a community that's engaging. I live in a major US city. My particular block isn't super engaging but I know, and am jealous of, a number of nearby blocks and neighborhoods that are incredibly supportive and engaging with each other - despite or in spite of the appearances or affiliations of the individuals.

Inversely, extended family may be more physically separated than in generations past. We've lost most connection with relatives in favor of the choice to live in an area that's more advantageous to us - be it financially or spiritually or physically beneficial.

I've observed more instances of people establishing their own "extended family" through their communities. I'm not so sure there's an inherent advantage of the extended family being made of blood or friendship.

Also, I'm not sure how you define "extended family". I hang out with some of my first cousins all the time. Second cousins, not so much. Are aunts and uncles extended family - if not "nuclear family"? I see them too often, tbh.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Blood does not a family make. It just means the composition looks different.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Under Capitalism, no, not really.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nope. The market is the driving force of society so all that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, etc.