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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It is kinda trolling how you can just call an election when you think your party will do best

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some countries end up with a great PM because everyone else was made inelligible. Looking at you, New Zealand.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

my favorite UK shitpost was liz truss, very funny.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lasting shorter than a letuce

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago (5 children)

You can get rid of your prime ministers pretty easily if they suck. We’re electing what is now essentially a king for at least the next 4 years.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

France is not the EU. This doesn't happen in other European countries because there are rules and proper times to make proper campaigns. I don't even think this is a good thing to joke about Americans because what was done in France was just plain stupid

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And Belgium, and Holland, and...

This happens all over europe

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

France is great at revolutions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Per te la Repubblica Italiana è uno scherzo?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I only speak A2 italian and even i understood that rage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Didn't the Netherlands have a year of five premiers?

Also, Tories, y'all might want to disown them but the Brits are still euros as far as everyone else reckons, save maybe for a particularly unionist canadian or aussie.

Y'all might have rules about it but that doesn't change that snap elections basically guarantee no incentive to figure anything out because you can always just hit the do-over button until someone's base is the last one standing without turnout fatigue and someone secures an outright majority or a purely ideological coalition.

The idea of governing coalitions is kinda old fashioned anyways, just hold a STAR or approval vote for each of the cabinet positions including for premier and voilà, now you never have to engage in horse trading just to form a standing government, and the stress of negotiations can be reserved for law making or inter-departmental cabinet affairs.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The US also has 5 times as many people as France.

Europe can have snap elections, but we don't try and have elections for every European country at once, with two leaders trying desperately to visit each one to win support.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago

You can have 5 times more people counting votes and organizing things. I dont understand this excuse. Democracy can scale, especially nowadays with technology.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Russia. Try to visit every city in four years.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

European Parliament elections were like a couple of months ago.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fuck it. Elections will be a couple of months ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Wouldnt mind giving VOLT my ballet again :3

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They wouldn't need to visit each country, they don't even bother caring about more than 4 states in the US!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

That presumes the EU would be dumb enough to try the electoral college on for size again

That's right we know where that shit came from you HRE and PLC descended fuckers!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Given the events of the last week, I can certainly see them being a bit more picky about lines of sight from nearby tall buildings.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Sounds unstable and scary.

edit: calm down, I'm sure 90% of the time it's a much better system than the US, but the way it is described in the title does not sound stable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I'd argue that political stability consists of and depends on at least rule of law, separation of powers and democratic representation. The EU and its member still have a lot to progress in this regard, though. Coalition building is kind of a comprise towards building pluralistic quasi-consensus based decision-making.

IMO, coalition political systems have the potential to politically deal better with long-term issues as small parties can influence governments beyond a single term. Green parties, but unfortunately also far-right parties, for example can thus push for their topics.

The US also had a coalition, the National Unity Party during its Civil War.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've read that in Belgium (the worst offendor in this regard), the regional governments have so much power that not having a national government for a year or so isn't much of a problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Belgium is a federal country, like Germany or the US. The regions have control over some things, not everything. Plus the current federal government stays as caretaker until a new government is formed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Usually we just vote, they find a coalition and it stays that way for a few years

About coalitions: they mean that the parties in power need at least 50%, so if there's not a single party with over 50% ("absolute majority") they need a partner. The big parties in my country usually get 20-30%.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Usually we just vote, they find a coalition and it stays that way for a few years

laughs in Italian

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