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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

The Internet.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (4 children)

My flat earther forums have a stickied Q&A where you can find the real truth on any topic. Did you know that dolphins are aliens sent to spy on us?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I skim the Wikipedia page on whatever topic is being discussed and pretend to be an expert.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Reading papers and contacting people in that field. I've found that university professors can especially direct you to materials in their field, and even like to chat about it sometimes. Half of my book collection was found this way.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 months ago (9 children)

I post my ignorant opinions somewhere. There’s always someone who will correct me with correct information.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The life of the shitpoaster.

But for real comment section can be very useful to learn if you are willing to do it.

There is generally somebody who knows what they are talking about. Just got to figure out who.

Reddit had so much fluff and moderation as if they didn't want you to find good info.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A review paper from a reputable journal. The Annual Reviews series was great for this. Some of the Nature journals also used to run mini-reviews associated with research papers in the issue.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There used to be these buildings full of books that I could just borrow for free.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Love books and huge fan of libraries but how do you find the right book in the ocean of books?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I was taught in school how to use the library catalog. It was considered essential, for success in life, at the time.

I actually do know how to use Dewey Decimal, if I haven't forgotten.

In these modern times, there's generally a PC near the information desk, with the browser home page set to a library catalog search tool, specific to that library.

And as someone else mentioned, we can ask the librarian for help, when we don't find what we need. I actually shortcut the process and ask for a quick lesson in how to use the search, if I'm feeling uncertain.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Ask the librarian nicely and they'll probably be able to point you in the right direction. Cataloguing information is kind of their thing, and helping people get access to that information is why many of them join the profession.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Just sit at the library for a while, sit near the shelf that has the topic you're interested in and grab a few books at a time and go through them to see if any seem like the right book

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

"Don't you know the Dewey decimal system?"

Sorry, stupid reference. In seriousness though, type in a topic into your library's search and start browsing, check out a few that seem useful.

I'm an academic and I find my University's library useful for finding knowledge on a new topic. If an introductory textbook exists on the subject, can be a good starting point.

For Most hobbies though, youtube is a great resource. I've gotten into woodworking and fishing, and youtube is a superb resource for information.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well you see I’m a major GEN er alllllllllllll

But seriously Wikipedia, YouTube guides, enthusiast forums. Usually try to read from multiple sources

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Watch and read as much youtube and article as possible, and try to join a discussion with open mind.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Youtube u gotta get the widest set of opinions possible. Unfortunatly peertube just lacks content.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

for what kind of topics?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I repeat what I said to the other commenter: how do you find actual good and trustable channels on a specific topic?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Finding a trustworthy source is the hardest part. I generally avoid anyone speaking too loudly of the subject. Someone who’s knowledgeable and confident, most times, can present calmly with context that’s accessible to most people.

Neil deGrasse Tyson is a good example. He’s a good place to start for a broad range of topics. Then if I want more details I can dig deeper on my own. A lot of times, his commentary requires digging deeper because he speaks too broadly.

I always check the source of a report or article; if there is no source, I don’t trust it. The source is usually a good place to ‘bookmark’ for further research.

Edit: a few days later and I’ve come across the perfect example. Here Tyson explains “the tide doesn’t come in and out”. What I think he should more clearly say is there’s no “high tide” and “low tide”. To me, and I could be an idiot, I thought he was going to explain the action of the waves coming in and out at the cost line every 30 seconds or so. It’s not that he’s wrong but sometimes his choice of words isn’t super on point. Here’s more info about Tidal Range https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/tides.html

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Trying to learn from 'youtubers' seems like asking for trouble.

Lectures posted on youtube etc. are different I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I highly disagree with looking for the widest set of opinions. Some opinions are stupid and/or baseless and just muddy the conversation (that’s part of how you get screaming talking heads on cable news shows).

Personally I look for those with expertise who speak to their expertise. Just because someone has an advanced degree in one field does not mean their opinions in other fields are worth listening to. Also, I do a gut check. If is smells like BS, such as unfounded blanket statements or it seems like they’re pushing/selling something, I look into their qualifications a bit more or find someone else.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Go with people who are willing to use their real name, a lot of times it'll be in the channel description, or sometimes in a channel trailer or intro video. Sometimes in an interview some other outlet/creator has done on the content creator. Then google that real name and check their work history and education credentials. You can usually find a LinkedIn. If they're a proper academic, their university will usually have a brief page on them on the official university website. If they're an alumni, they can sometimes be found in an alumni list, various class lists, or publicly accessible projects they worked on, though not always. Work history often cannot be as easily verified, but sometimes can be if you dig a little. Depends on field.

It's not too different from what you'd do if you wanted to hire someone to work for you in a small business or something.

Once you have a significant knowledge base yourself, you can start to use the sniff test, though that's always far from perfect. Less time consuming though.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The same way as topics in my field of expertise, of course.

YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Follow up question: how do you find actual good and trustable channels on a specific topic?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Youtube comments can be strangely helpful here, sometimes. If there's a lot of "akshually" comments on every video, it may be a sign the youtuber is full of it. Not always true, but anything helps. Can also look up the youtuber's credentials as well.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I'm going to think about that and get back to you. I think it's mostly intuitive, based on many years of experience, but I'm not sure at this point.

I also have to mention that I was half joking. I don't use YT all that much for my profession. I would, but it's just not entirely relevant.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

sci-hub and annas-archive

I want to be less reliant on Wikipedia and Google Scholar, but in truth I still use them a lot

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why do you want to be less reliant on Wikipedia?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Curious about this one too

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago
  1. Centralize anything and it will be ruined bubthe regime

  2. Wiki is already under a lot of pressure as is due to be as central as it is. There were rumors of them being under US Security service supervision so how good can it really be and where is it going to go now

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you directly read papers on those topics? I tried doing that but I feel it requires a huge amount of background

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I am not the person you are replying to.

I read a lot of papers and it is hard if you don't have background knowledge of the subject. If it's something I am really interested in, then I will dive deep, if it's not I will probably let it go when I get to the point where I no longer grasp what's being said.

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