Windows pushing users to use Linux!
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Shut up, OneDrive.
Life hack: Install Windows 10/11 Enterprise IOT LTSC you get support for a long time and there is absolutely no bullshit pre installed.
It's the first thing I uninstall in a fresh install
Given 'backup' or 'back-up' is a noun, and 'back up' is the verb form, does the nag pop-up have the spelling mistake? It suggests the people writing (and reviewing) this code aren't the star employees. Is it a make-work project from sales? Intern-chow?
Your PC is not fully backed up
Backup is not turned on for Credentials and Folders. Back up now to save them if something happens to your PC.
This is the prompt from the screenshot in the article.
Seems right to me.
Microsoft is teaching a whole generations to ignore them.
What drives me nuts about this is that it always uses the vague language of security and data protection without any consideration that, y'know, they have competition from other cloud providers and self-hosted solutions that do things that OneDrive can't even do. I guess if you have your backups anywhere else it doesn't count.
Yeah but they have one killer feature others don't : shuting up these f**king notifications.
It's the third god damned time I find newly installed MS software doing "something" in the background that I never authorized. I don't even have Onedrive. I purged that sin from the metal as soon as I had the chance.
I already intend to change OSes. The real question is now if I do it when I decide to upgrade, or in the fast lane. Which is it Microsoft?
Do it now. The more time you give yourself for dealing with it the better. Start dual booting, or on one of your devices. familiarize yourself and transition slowly, rather than having to deal with all of it at once.
I've already tried Linux several times over the years. My problems were mainly poor program compatibility and RTX card related driver issues for the latest attempt. At the time I couldn't afford to change since critical work related programs did not run at all properly on Linux. Albeit that has changed in time. Also, because of the AI craze, NVIDIA has finally shipped decent drivers to linux land.
What prevents me most nowadays is mainly having to setup everything, which I'd rather do once when upgrading the whole system. The Power User moat has been filling over time and the confy guys upstairs are non the wiser.
One would have to be a special kind of stupid to do that.
Also even if I had the space on my OneDrive (and I've even got 30GB thanks to some promotions from the Windows Phone days) my upload speed is dogshit slow and I don't want to think about how long it would take me to upload the 70GB it wants to backup.
I think Windows 10 will be the last version I use. As time goes on, Linux seems more and more like a viable option, and I'll be glad to have control over my PC for once. And who knows, maybe I will no longer have the mysterious freezing issue that's been plaguing me for years...
I switched to opensuse tumbleweed about 3 months ago and I have zero complaints. Yast is such a powerful too you can avoid using the terminal for many things, and it being rolling release makes it easier to stay up to date. Plus it comes with snapper reconfigured so if anything breaks you can rollback in about 5 minutes. I've had to learn some new things, and a few online games don't work according to proton db but I've yet to run into a game problem on a game I want to play.
I don't mind learning and using the terminal. From what I hear, it can be used to automate things more easily than on Windows and I'm all for it, as long as it's not needed for everyday tasks.
I think when I eventually (soon, I hope) get my PC hooked up where I'm at I'll try either Pop!_OS or Mint.
Thanks for the feedback~
I switched to Pop!_OS earlier this year and couldn’t be happier. All apps run way faster than they did with Windows on the same hardware. All but one of my Steam games run great (one day I’ll get that last game to work). My “life critical” things are web based, everything else is adjustable.
That sounds promising. I've heard good things about Pop!_OS. Which game has issues, if I might ask?
I try to avoid web-based apps when I can. For instance, there is a supposedly great photo editor that's only available via web browser. I'd hate to become dependent on it and then lose access due to an internet outage, or something.
Sorry, when I said "life critical", i mean things like email, banking, self-hosted NextCloud for files, etc. For me, everything else is flexible as I don't have business things that have to run on Windows (that is my work provided laptop), so I don't have to have the Adobe suite for photo editing, i can use one of several open source alternatives, and all of my hobbies have open source alternatives like Blender.
The only game I cannot get to run is Space Engineers. Numerous other newer and older games work great. To be fair, I'm not an online/multiplayer gamer, so the challenges people run in to due to anti-cheating requirements don't affect the games I play.
What was really interesting to me, is that I tried Windows 11 Pro and 6 or 7 different Linux distros over several months before landing on Pop!_OS. I mention this because it was all the exact same hardware and so I was able to compare performance in an Apples to Apples situation. There is an obvious application loading improvement. Even comparing against something like Garuda that is supposedly all about performance tweaks.
Oh, I see. For some reason I took 'life critical' to mean any program one keeps installed and 'can't do without' ;)
I think Space Engineers is on my list, and it looks like my PC just barely meets the requirements. As for compatiblity, I can always keep Windows 10 around for certain things.
I don't play anything online either. Last game I tried online was Minecraft, and I just couldn't deal with the griefers. Some asshats found a way into my area and stole/killed all my cows >:( (Or I was overbreeding and the mods removed them, idk.)
I switched over ~3 ish years ago and have never been happier. I recommend Fedora if you want any distro suggestions.
Do all distros have the same compatibility with video cards and software? I want something that'll run Blender, Krita, Gimp, etc., and support my Wacom tablet. And run my favorite games, of course. Lots of people say Mint is good for newbies jumping ship. I don't mind learning a new environment and running console commands from time-to-time.
What video card do you have? All distros should work perfectly with AMD cards out of the box, while nvidia you will probably have to install the driver yourself. Nvidia driver support is continually getting better as time goes on though.
Blender, GIMP, and Krita will work out of the box with all distros. Not 100% sure on the tablet so you may wanna research a bit more on that front.
I tried Mint when I originally switched and wasn't a fan, I distro hopped a bit and stuck with Fedora when I tried it out. I use the gnome version of Fedora and originally installed some extensions to make it more windows like. After a few months I dropped those extensions and am pretty much in vanilla gnome now.
Also sorta unrelated but I also installed the new cosmic desktop environment recently (it's pre alpha right now) and use it instead of gnome, I like it more than gnome but it's pre alpha so hold off on that one probably.
The only issues I've experienced in recent memory with using Linux is Steam won't launch properly if I launch it using the steam icon, I have to open a terminal window and type 'steam'. That launches steam with the terminal, and I have to leave that terminal window open as long as I want steam open.
Whatever distro/de you end up going with will have a learning curve for sure but in my opinion it's really worth it. I truly think open source software should be the future, and I'm happy I took the leap myself. Good luck on your journey!
It's an AMD R9 380 2GB, so kind of old. (In fact, it's factory overclocked, so that might be the source of the crashes.)
I'll probably just buy a new storage drive so I don't have to worry about Linux and Windows existing on the same one. It's going to be great, having more control over the OS. I bet things will even be faster overall, due to the relative lack of bloat.
Microsoft and nagging? Naaahh, they would never! They would never "hey hello, please please send us feedback!" 5x per day while I'm trying to get work done on that awful offce365. They would never stuff popups all over their sites to continuously nag me about new updates and features and bullshit, they. Would. Never.
I've got bad news for you. I found out that if you fill in the survey it still comes back on every click.
And you're gonna need that backup as windows and it's publishers work hard to kill your computer through automated updates.
Install Linux already, dammit
We started seeing this pop-up recently, but here's the thing, my organization already uses OneDrive (unfortunately) but the pop-up just says that they need to contact your administrator to set it up (OneDrive is already setup)
Just means the new backup service has permissions off by default.
Since your company may not want that, enjoy the eternal Microsoft spam forever.
This nagging + only offering a "Not Now" "rejection" option shit needs to stop. Apple constantly does this too on iPhone and Mac. Umm, I said no to having it or upgrading it, that should mean never bother me again unless I seek it out intentionally.
It genuinely makes my skin crawl — reminds me of being nagged for sex from someone who hears "not now" when you mean "no."
Didn't read the article, but Windows 10 did the whole OneDrive backup nag message thing as well. Defender would always shiw a warning that you're "not secure" if you don't backup to OneDrive.
Microsoft will continue ramping up the ads, nags, and dark patterns until everyone is subscribed to their own hardware.
*until everyone stops using Windows. Except for business users, which probably don't get these nags anyway
Interesting. I wonder if I'm going to end up getting this or not? My guess is that I won't, but we'll see.
I have Windows 11 on my new computer, yes (and I needed Windows because some of the things I want to do require it), but I installed Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC, and it doesn't really come with much of anything out of the box. It's supposed to only get security updates, no features updates.
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