There is a kernel of a truly great movie hidden inside Batman & Robin. Unfortunately it's buried under a mountain of shit. The result? Pure corn.
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he wasn't the problem with that movie
Dinner dinner dinner dinner Batman!
I call it the Nipple Batman, and I enjoyed it too.
Clooney Batman was great, he fit right in the role IMHO, too bad he was in Batman & Robin, but I could easily see him doing what Keaton did, or even Pattinson.
So many good cast members completely wasted
Both of the Joel Schumacher films are fun if you don't take them seriously. They're not perfect by any means, but I'll throw them on every few years and have a good time. I can't even remember the last time I watched the Burton films, besides clips of "Love that Joker"
I think you just have to judge them for what they are, not hyper gritty neo noir anti hero or the gothy expressionist dark serious tone, but more of a campy fun 60s Adam West bman style everyone just going really hammy.
Batman Returns is in my holiday movie rotation.
When I saw that movie I was disappointed. Everyone in my life would always tell me how terrible it was and I shouldn't watch it, then when I actually did watch it it turns out the movie is actually just a gigantic love letter to Adam West's batman and is one of my favorite batman movies and I'm upset I listened to The Average Idiotic Movie Viewer and didn't watch it sooner.
The problem is that it's supposed to be a sequel to the Tim Burton movies and it just doesn't work on that front.
Neither does Batman Forever but that one is treated a lot better.
Because Batman Forever is a sequel to a Tim Burton movie.
Batman & Robin is a sequel to a sequel of a Tim Burton movie.
The level of camp/silliness increased for each film.
As a standalone film, it was fine. In the era it came out in, it didn't work.
Tommy Lee Jones acting like a sugar addicted child was more emotionally scarring than any other movie I have ever seen. And I am including liveleak videos in this.
I really liked George Clooney as Batman.
But I also liked Pierce Brosnan as James Bond so I'm probably wrong.
Pierce Brosnan was great as James Bond. Goldeneye probably saved the franchise from oblivion. He got shit scripts after that, but he was right for the role.
Also, Dalton's first movie as Bond is highly underrated.
Please elaborate on the Brosnan part? I think he fit the role well, and I think GoldenEye is one of the best Bond movies. That being said, I wouldn't call myself a Bond connoisseur.
I don't think any of the Bonds were bad in the role. They all bought their own thing to it.
Some of them got some dogshit plots and scripts though, and frankly Brosnan's may have been even worse than Dalton's. Goldeneye is at least goofy and fun, a return to the Moore era. The rest were irredeemably bad.
"It's the car, right? Chicks dig the car."
(Actually maybe that was Keaton... 🤔 I really don't remember)
I heard him tell a story about the time he had a close call with guys with machine guns on one of his foreign aid missions, and found himself on his knees with his hands in the air. He said he was worried that they'd figure out that they were safe, and start to let them go, and then recognize him, and say "YOU PUT NIPPLES ON THE BAT SUIT!" and shoot him anyway.
It was reminiscent of the older silly Batman stuff and I liked it! I'll die on that hill!
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