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NOAA also collects and analyzes key climate data

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (2 children)

These jerks are doing it because they don't want to hear bad climate news. Fucking brilliant.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (13 children)

Uhh wtf? I use NOAA to get my weather, no ads, no bs.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

It further notes that scientific agencies such as NOAA are “vulnerable to obstructionism of an Administration’s aims,” so appointees should be screened to ensure that their views are “wholly in sync” with the president’s.

do we want flood-risk predictions sponsored by a flood-insurance company, or heat advisories from an air-conditioning conglomerate?

The agency is home to one of the most significant repositories of climate data on Earth, which includes information on shifting atmospheric conditions and the health of coastal fisheries, plus hundreds of thousands of years’ worth of ice-core and tree-ring data.

Eliminating or privatizing climate information won’t eliminate the effects of climate change. It will only make them more deadly.

It sounds like the counter to this is to point out to voters that they don't really want to pay more for fish because fishermen can't get data, and we don't want planes to be even less reliable AND cost more because the government stops tracking upper level wind speeds, and that, generally, we want people who get a salary for doing accurate work rather than people who get paid to say whatever the bossman want to hear. Ask them to imagine how it would work if Google, NBC, Amazon, and Fox each sunk the money for trying to replicate the existing infrastructure and then sold pieces of it to paying customers -- such as Allstate, CBS, and Delta Airlines. Everyone else would have to HOPE they were getting complete data and have to wonder what was missing. Noticing record highs and lows would become proprietary and forbidden from broadcast in a way akin to being disallowed from referencing "The Superbowl" unless you pay for a license. How's any of that going to work?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"Make Tornadoes a Surprise Again!"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I'm just going to call my friends who live to the west every 10 minutes and ask if there's a tornado there. If they don't answer I'll just assume there is one and go hide. Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Don't worry, they're also doing that by taking down storm sirens and replacing them with mobile alerts because basic maintenance is too much to ask. They just assume everyone has access to a phone at all times and that said phone is charged and capable of receiving the alert. Y'know, because the young and elderly don't deserve to be warned of an incoming tornado!

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 4 months ago (4 children)

This is the typical Republican playbook. Privatize, their friends take control, and then they get the government to pay their cronies huge sums of money for the services the government used to provide for itself for a fraction of the cost. It's what they are trying to do with school vouchers too.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

It’s thinly veiled stealing your money and putting it into their pocket.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (1 children)

don't forget private prisons. after they're done with all that, get ready to pay for your fire and police department subscriptions

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because they allowed him to embarrass himself with the hurricane sharpie situation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Precisely. The god dictator will have them all executed in time.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

I wouldn't mind betting there's an element of truth there. The orange man child would do it out of spite.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

It's never clear whether they're more corrupt or more stupid. But they're determined to bury their heads in the sand over the most important issue ever to face humanity, and dismantle the resources the USA has to mitigate the disaster. Corrupt and stupid and delusional.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Fuck climate change, NOAA provides hurricane and heat warnings. They're what most weather providers use as the basis for telling people if you should grab an umbrella on your way out the door

Starting a culture war with the weather is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. What's your end game? Weatherman Alex Jones telling Floridians to go to the beach because the hurricane is just going to glide by safely and bring a nice cool breeze to the shore to keep you comfy?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago

Rush Limbaugh told his listeners that a hurricane was fake and to stay. Then the day before the hurricane, just before all the airports are shut down, he is off the air because he was "forcibly moved."

https://www.gq.com/story/rush-limbaugh-evacuates-irma

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They want to privatize everything.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Corrupt and stupid and delusional.

Fossil fascism in action.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like something I would put on my plan to undermine and cripple a country if you ask me. Did an enemy of America write Project 2025?

[–] [email protected] 69 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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