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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Not saying the guy wasn't, but I'm pretty sure my former classmates would recall me as very conservative, and I changed a lot.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

From like 2-3 years ago? My friends from that long ago would not get that info wrong. Former classmates from almost 2 decades ago might get it wrong.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Guy was 20, so if we're talking high school senior classmates, that's only 2-3 years of growth.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

same. once the world starts to roll you, you get better perspectives.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

When the years start coming, they don't stop coming. Kid may not have been the sharpest tool in the shed but he tried to be an all star. He got his game on and went and played.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Who's to say he didn't just want to die and take someone important out with him. In the mental state he was in at the time, he may not have even cared about politics.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I was thinking there's no proof he didn't do this to impress Jodie Foster. We may never completely understand

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[–] [email protected] 211 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (14 children)

A lot of conservatives think trrmp is a traitor, too.

I mean, they should. The evidence provides.

But they usually think he betrayed the extremes of their bigotries rather than the country and general decency.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It was a horrible incident and there is no room for violence in politics…

That said, I am relieved to know that the shooter is neither an immigrant nor a person of color, or a trans person. And not someone on the left. The violent backlash from the right would be unbearable/unthinkable otherwise.

But, rifles are an old way of doing things, and predict that there will be more political violence through the next years.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

It won't matter though, they'll still blame the left and say it was a false flag etc. Biden even connected this to the Gaza campus protests.

[–] [email protected] 115 points 4 months ago (4 children)

“It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate.”

Trump is the Republican candidate, but anyone young enough to actually believes in conservative talking points would not see him as a conservative candidate and would see him as a threat to the party.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

That is true of some conservatives, which is obvious due to trumps continued popularity.

Some conservatives see trump as a bad conservative. Many see him as a good or even the best conservative.

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[–] [email protected] 190 points 4 months ago (16 children)

They also said he was a terrible shot.

I'm not even kidding. He tried out for the school shooting club and they asked him not to come back because they considered his poor shooting and gun handling dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Oh that makes it even funnier holy shit

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe he was aiming at a suspiciously Antifa-looking person in the crowd and missed?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

"Those damn Antifas and their damn anti-fascist ways."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I need the sauce cause that's hilarious if it's true.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 months ago (2 children)

LMFAO! I had a feeling he was conservative. It don't know about a terrible shot, he got damn close but if his school had a shooting club he was probably still better than someone untrained but could still be bad enough not to make the team. Like when I got cut from golf, a no cut sport, half way through the first day

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (4 children)

He's a bad shot because anyone with any bit of training or even youtube experience knows to aim center mass. More chance of hitting. I picked up shooting for sport in 2017 and can hit center mass with iron sites at the distance this kid was. With my cheapo scope, I can hit out to 300 yards.

He tried lolz x-gamer headshot and failed miserably.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I'm perplexed by the lack of a scope. I honestly think it was a machismo move. Wanted to try n headshot him with iron sights so people would talk about it or whatever. Maybe it was all he had, but I doubt it. There are articles saying he was a member at a local range and practiced there all the time. I'm sure he owned a scope. Maybe he didn't think he'd have time to line up a shot with a scope? Idk, it was just weird.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He had a lot of shots, at least three, so I'm not even sure he aimed at the head. If the story about the policeman distracting him is true, it means a boy on adrenalin tried his best to keep his aim straight in a hurry. I believe hitting Trump at all was an accident.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

This. I'm guessing that police man actually saved trumps life because the attempt had to be carried out in a rush and with at least a mild shock still in the system.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Trump was almost certainly wearing a vest

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No way would USSS be able to get his fat ass to wear a vest consistently, let alone the plates needed to stop a rifle round. In this heat?

Though I'm sure now he may reconsider, or be forced to.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Like all bullies, trump is a coward. Wouldn't blow my mind if he wore a vest before he even ran for president.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A hit to a vest definitely has a real chance to kill him. Vests distribute the impact, but they're still massive chest trauma for a 70-something dude.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely it could. Vest or no vest, I don't want to get shot. But "aim for center of mass" is only the rule of thumb when the center of mass is unprotected. Otherwise, it becomes "aim for the material specifically designed to stop bullets" which is not a great rule of thumb.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe he did aim for the center...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

And that would be even worse for a stationary target.

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