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The House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries said he shared lawmakers’ “insight, heartfelt perspectives and conclusions about the path forward” in a private meeting with Joe Biden yesterday.

The meeting came after more than a dozen House Democrats publicly called on the president to end his bid for re-election after his stumbling performance against Donald Trump in their first debate.

Jeffries had promised that he would talk to Biden after speaking with all of the 213 Democrats in the House of Representatives, and, in a letter to lawmakers today, he indicated that he has done so, without elaborating on Biden’s response.

Deep-pocketed Democratic donors are putting multimillion-dollar pledges on hold and saying they won’t hand over the money until Joe Biden abandons his re-election campaign, the New York Times reports.

Others are holding off on giving any more money to Future Forward, the largest Super Pac supporting the president’s campaign.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I directly expressed the full breadth of insight, heartfelt perspectives and conclusions about the path forward

You wanna share that path forward with the rest of us?

To me, the issue is much more “what are we gonna do instead” than it is “naw man Biden totally isn’t old / it’s not a problem that he is”

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (16 children)

Can people stop pretending like this movement is just a media manufactured story now? The refusal to look at the whole picture is astonishing.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He needs to step down. I fought this for a while, but he's lost the confidence of his party, and you can't come back from that. Not in a few short months. Any path forward for Biden from here will be a monumental struggle to get the support needed to beat Trump.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Who is the best replacement and how do we choose?

EDIT: It was a collective "We," people. As in, all of us who aren't fascists. I'm well aware of how the democratic party chooses candidates.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I'm not opposed to the idea of a contested convention. The risks today aren't what they were in 1968, and the internet mediasphere makes that kind of spectacle really valuable for generating high levels of media coverage. I think a 4-day contest that resulted in one person coming out on top would do a lot to bring disengaged voters into the conversation. Whether we like it or not, politics are all about showmanship, and there's value in generating buzz and anticipation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

So… I don’t disagree, and a contested convention (after Biden agreeing to release his delegates saying that he’d love to re-win the nomination but recognizes that the complaints are valid and wants what’s best for the Democrats as a whole) sounds like not a bad strategy.

There’s one pretty chilling thing though: How difficult to do think it would be for a Russian influence operation, or a GOP one working with a few friendly players in local politics / law enforcement in Chicago, to create a giant violent shit show of cops assaulting protestors and creating the exact types of events that will overshadow anything good that comes out of the convention and turn off a whole bunch of left wing people, because they can’t tell the difference between the Chicago cops doing something and the Democratic Party doing that same thing, if it happens at the convention?

I don’t think it would be difficult at all. And that’s before even adding in whatever any boogaloo people who want to show up might do.

I think the DNC could easily be where the fighting in the streets fireworks that continue into November get started for real, and in a way that depresses Democratic voter turnout a lot more than the debate did.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

How difficult to do think it would be for a Russian influence operation

That is the biggest worry rn, esp after The Guardian just reported today there was massive "coordinated networks of accounts spreading disinformation (that) 'flooded' social media in France, Germany and Italy before the elections to the European parliament."

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (12 children)

Harris is the obvious choice, though I would be thrilled if it went to someone else. The DNC, unfortunately, will have to discuss amongst the delegates who will get the final nod. What's important is that we have unity going forward - which is one of the reasons why it's so important for Biden to step down and get onboard with this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Harris is the only candidate who would be able to access all the money the Biden campaign has already. Anyone else would start from scratch

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which is why Harris needs to be onboard too. And, unfortunately, one of several reasons why she's the most likely candidate.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

He could full out resign, putting Harris in office and be able to appoint a new VP that inspires more confidence than Harris. Could satisfy party brass who want to control the appointment for getting Biden out.

Or he could drop out of the race and endorse Harris at an open convention which would be more democratic.

Hold a national primary over the next month.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

The problem is the convention is happening after the ballot deadline in Ohio, which has historically been waived by the Ohio legislature for both parties, but which has not this year with Republicans in charge. That's why there was going to get a virtual roll call before the convention to nominate Biden. There needs to be a nominee solidified and nominated before the convention or risk having no Democratic candidate for president on the Ohio ballot

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, donors pulling money is the only way Biden will drop out.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It might just turn me into a Biden supporter*, I hate how much influence rich fucks have on our politics

*I was/am going to vote for him or whoever the Democratic nominee is anyway, but I have always thought Joe Biden was a racist-rehabilitating credit card company loving piece of crap and take every opportunity I can to point out that I think the Democratic party needs to do way better than this, but the whole reason we got stuck with President Biden in the first place is because of big money donors like this who think they know better than everyone else

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait the donors acknowledging they were dumb to stuck us with him is the reason you may turn into a supporter?

Thats some logic

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