All of this is basically my worst nightmare. Fuck anyone imposing the way this guy did.
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I hope all the communist cosplayers on Lemmy read this. Capitalism is far, far from perfect and caused its share of misery, but that's what you're stanning for.
If you actually apply a Marxist analysis here, the system in the Soviet Bloc after the revolution failed in the 20s was a clearly capitalist one, the thing Engels described as the state becoming the "national capitalist" in "Socialism: Utopian and Scientific". The very fact this was done to bolster "the economy" and sorted people into their ability to provide value to be exploited by the state economy is making that quite clear.
Capitalism does not mean western democracy, neither does having red aesthetics and abstract ideals and convictions make you communist - only the actual material base and relations of production and value are what should be looked at.
Communism was the best thing that ever happened to Russia, and Russia was the worst thing to ever happen to communism.
We advocate against human rights violations, not for them. What, you think capitalism cradles and comforts children? Russia has only ever known corruption by the wealthy and powerful. Stop guzzling what you're fed and realize that progress takes time and failure and effort. Just because Russia couldn't pull it off, you think it's impossible for the West to make it work?
That's authoritarianism calling itself communism. Just because they call it that doesn't make it so, and you're buying into their propaganda if you call it communist.
What happened to these children was horrific, but framing it as a communism vs democracy/capitalism is pointless jingoism. The USA and other Western nations have their fair share of atrocities committed against children.
The thousands of children who were stolen from their families and abused/killed in Residential Schools were mistreated and abused in a society that viewed the practice as "democratic", "enlightened" even.
The idea of deformities making children "unfit" is just a form of eugenics, which was fully endorsed by the US prior to WWII.
To say nothing of Japanese internment camps, indiscriminate bombing of schools and homes in the Middle East, thousands of teens tried and imprisoned as adults in the failed war on drugs, children being stolen from their families and imprisoned on the Southern border, and countless other atrocities committed against children by our great nation. And right now the Western world is financing a military campaign in Gaza which has killed an unfathomable number of children.
Communism may be no better, but it's hard to argue it's worse.
The numbers are quite literally orders of magnitude apart
That's a bold claim, do you have a source?
According to the linked article in the OP, 170k children went through this Romanian system.
According to numbers just from Canada's residential School system, over 150k children were stolen from their families and beaten, abused, and often killed in pseudo-prisons. (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/canada-residential-schools-unmarked-graves-indigenous-children-60-minutes-2022-02-06/)
Numbers for the US are hard to come by, but the US dept of the interior estimates that "tens of thousands" of indian children died in their residential School system. (https://www.bia.gov/sites/default/files/dup/inline-files/bsi_investigative_report_may_2022_508.pdf)
This isn't a competition to see who is worse. Virtually every country on earth has committed unspeakable atrocities, many of them are still doing so today. Acting like this was a product of communism doesn't add anything useful to the discussion and just carries water for the parties who continue to commit similar atrocities under Western Capitalism.
A lot of the communist cosplayers on here don't care about communism, its just a facade to cover their support for the CCP and Kremlin.
They could at least stan Vietnam and Cuba instead
I rarely hear about either on here, but I see comments from "communists" all the time.
An important story.
Russia’s system isn’t/wasn’t any better, unfortunately. This was incredibly brutal and so hard to read.
The funny thing is the Soviets actually warned him about literally everything. He wouldn't listen, and Romania had enough independence to ignore them.
The Soviets made some huge unforced errors, but never "feed the orphans blood transfusions" errors.
What reading that last line felt like 😅😂
Everyone read this. It's an incredibly well written article. Journalism like this is so rare.
Jesus fucking christ. This has hit me like a ton of bricks. And this is all so recent. What a stupid bubble I've grown up in. Glad to be edified, but mortified at humans, as well as totally inspired by them. Izidor and all of the other suffering people out there put me to shame. What a dumb thing to complain about work today.
Wishing that peace finds all those who have suffered at the hands of monstrous humans.
Highly recommend subscribing to The Atlantic. It’s about $50 for a year but has some of the best journalism across a variety of perspectives that will challenge you. Sometimes emotionally, like with this article, other times politically, but I always come away feeling more informed.
Well, you make a good case.
Have you read this from them?
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1996/05/the-nitrous-oxide-philosopher/376581/
(I can't, I'm not a subscriber. But I think it used to be free or smth. I'm pretty sure I've read it in the past.)
What a dumb thing to complain about work today.
Trauma is trauma. This isn't the Olympics, and we do not judge and compare trauma.
YOU'RE ALLOWED TO FEEL SAD or pissed or frustrated or hungry or lonely or happy. The existence of people more happy or lonely or hungry or sad than you does not rob you of your right to feel.
Don't minimize your own experiences. They're the only ones you get.
I hope tomorrow goes better. No more free slurpees tomorrow, but it is Friday.
Yeah I’ve been having to remind myself of this as I (diagnosed with ptsd) have been hanging out a lot with someone whose life is an unyielding horror show. It’s important to be sensitive and acknowledge the differences with her, but it’s also important to understand that my life has been pretty fucking rough in its own right.
And both of us manage to complain about a bad day at work. Sure her night terrors aren’t about her bad day at work, and none of her shifts have resulted in one of her traumatically originated mental illnesses, but I still get a text bitching about it from her when it happens.
They're the only ones you get
Ha, jokes on you, that's what TV and books are for! (Mostly kidding, but not completely)
Truly the most horrific of crimes against children. Nothing makes me more sick.
We may soon see this in Russia, where they’re talking about banning the idea of not having children as “extremism”
We might even see something like it in the USA, thanks to the evangelicals and Republicans.
With them, I imagine the US will become more like Israel. They're religious extremists.
Broke teen parents having no choice but to join the military? That's a republican wet dream.
On the plus side, they were smart enough to go air force.
Ceaușescu had curtailed contraception and abortion, imposed tax penalties on people who were childless
He was an incompetant monster and damn that's an exemplary case.
Oh, it gets better. The Romanian government couldn't feed all the orphans because his dumbass tried to turn a bread basket with significant oil reserves into an industrial powerhouse (so he could have more guns), burning a lot of the oil that the economy relied on to pay for services to do it, so he came up with the bright idea of just giving them micro blood transfusions.
Of untested blood. With often unsterilized needles. Up to 120 times in a month.
During the AIDs epidemic.
where the fuck did they get all that blood --
romania
oooooh
Yeah they had some leftover from the vampire times.