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Edit: People are really making me out to be an evil psychopath with no empathy. I get that you can only tell so much from one post, but it's incredibly far from the truth. I have people that love and adore in my life and would do anything for. It just takes me a long ass time to get to that point...and as an introvert, my social battery with new people wears down quickly. Online dating is just difficult. I am not rude to others. Conversations just quickly peter out and neither I or my match end up continuing for much longer. The "ghosting" I speak of is often mutual. These aren't people I've interacted with for months that I suddenly stop talking to. It's chatting for a day or several and then we peter out.

If you think from this small post that I am such a psychopath as to discard a literal child, I don't know what to tell you. It's just leaping to such wild conclusions that I don't even know how to respond. I don't even necessarily want kids...I just want to be able to have the option to.


I'm sorry if this is too odd or specific of a question, but I have a bit of a dilemma.

I live alone. I have some work friends work friends, but they basically stay just friends at work. So I get lonely sometimes. And sometimes I just want to have someone around to do stuff with me. And sometimes I wonder what it might be like to raise a family.

So I occasionally try dating apps. But when I finally get someone to respond to me, my reaction is first a little bit of excitement, but then I get annoyed at having to chat with someone I just met all the time. So I unfortunately act like a dickhole by then ghosting them soon after. Even if I manage enough stamina to chat back and forth for a week or so, it always just ends up tiring and a bother to me.

The thing is, I don't really have much capacity to feel attracted to people. I'm probably somewhere on both the asexual and aromantic spectrums. So you'd think, why date? Just make a friendship then. But there are some things you can't do with a friend...like raise a family and such.

Plus, I don't even think I could manage a friendship with how difficult it is for me to like someone. I don't like anyone I just met. It takes a long time for me to enjoy and appreciate people, and many never actually make it to the point of someone I really like. There have been a couple of times where I have tried hanging out with people as friends and it's just...kind of dissatisfying to me?? Yet I really like hanging out with certain members of my family. I don't get it.

Plus like...what are you even supposed to do on a date or on an outing with friends? What are you supposed to say when you're chatting with a partner? How long and often are you supposed to chat with each other? I feel like I need some sort of a step by step guidebook because I don't even know what the hell people are supposed to do with each other.

Sorry if this is too specific. I'm just wondering if anyone else out there is as confused with human interaction as I am.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I understand. I'm not much for people either. Find groups that focus on in person activities that you enjoy. Find a girl that enjoys those same activities and you both can enjoy those activities together. In person not online, real relationships exist in the real world. Good luck to you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

You sound like you may have some schizoid qualities

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I resonate with most of your post. I deleted and rewrote this 5 different ways because I simply just don't post on the internet, but I've been coming around to the possibility that I'm gay with maybe some demi or ace on the side. As another more eloquent commenter said, I'm not saying that this is the case for you, but it just put things into perspective for me that I may have been unaware of a dimension of myself even in my mid-30s. Hope you have a lovely day.

Also, I like your saying about how everything changes, and to stick it out for the next inevitable change. I added it to my growing mantra list.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To be honest, I have thought now and then that "maybe I'm just gay". But I still don't seem to feel any of that stuff as strongly as sexual people do so idk.

I've never dated someone from the same sex, but I've been curious about it. These asexual dating sites are mostly filled with men, though, so it's hard to find a woman both that I'm interested in and that ends up responding to me. My profiles put me as open to both men and women, but I've yet to find a woman that wants to mutually chat tbh.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well good luck to us both! I have yet to find someone, but I hope we each find what we're looking for

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Thank you very much for your kind words. Same to you! 😊

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Get platonic friends through a hobby, like D&D, online gaming, rock climbing, music, etc. Find something you can enjoy locally (ideally).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was in a similar boat for a long time before finally realizing that I'm gay. Now I'm happily in a relationship with someone that I can't get enough of.

I'm not implying that you're gay, but instead suggesting that maybe you just haven't met the kind of person that fills your social meter instead of draining it. Other comments here on finding friends that match your hobbies are great ideas, and would be a great place to start. Friends can become the best lovers, can become the best life partners.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Tbh, I have occasionally wondered if maybe I'm just gay. I've never dated someone from my same sex, but I've wanted to try. Problem is on these asexual dating sites, they are mostly filled with men. So they are the ones I get the most back and forth with. I've yet to really mutually interact with a woman that I've had an interest with on there.

I'd rather not stray too far out of the asexual realm when thinking about a partner tbh. It would be nice if there were more aces locally to do stuff with and get to know, but there just aren't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm curious. Is there anything you're passionate about like gaming, sci-fi, anime, etc.? If so, you could always try attending conventions once in a while. Maybe you'll find what you're looking for at one.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Being blunt here, but it seems like you like the idea of dating and relationships, but probably not the reality of them.

I would suggest a pair of guinea pigs.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You sound exactly like me. I'm neurodivergent and went to therapy and it's somewhat fixed my issues with anti-social behavior that you seem to have and depression which sounds like you also have.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Would you mind expanding a bit on the anti social behavior and how therapy altered it personally?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Anti-social is very very different than A-social. With the former, a person is deliberately destroying the interactions with others either inadvertently or purposefully. With the latter, one simply does not have well developed social skills.

You are anti social. You need to talk to a fucking therapist. Stop trying to get free therapy from idiots and dipshits from the internet. Go to, and pay, a fucking professional therapist.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Right, some advice from an allo person with an ace family member:

  1. Dating and meeting people is hard, I'm sorry to say. Same as making friends, sometimes it just happens but most of the time it takes putting yourself out there in a meaningful and deliberate way.

  2. Liking someone and being interested in dating them does not usually hit like a bolt from the blue. It often grows over a while. You'll often have to build a friendship with someone before you build a relationship.

  3. If you find someone tiring and boring, don't date them. If you find everyone you meet boring and tiring after very little time then you have two options, either really challenge that preconception internally or consider whether you actually want to date.

If you want to date but aren't ready to actually put in the time and effort to get to know people then you are really going to struggle. Are you going to want to date someone long term when you don't even want to be connected to them for more than a few days?

There is also no guidebook, as much as it would be easier that way. People are individuals and dating requires you to see another as a person, not a puzzle to be solved. The only piece of advice that actually applies as a blanket is "be interested in them". You need to actually take an interest in who they are, what they do, how they feel. Ask the questions and listen to the answers.

Good luck, truly. Learning how to do friendship and relationship stuff is fucking hard. But getting interested in people is the most rewarding approach to take (at least in my experience, and that of my close friends).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Raising a kid, if that is what you mean by "raising a family" is a huge drain on anyone's social battery.

It's not so much the interaction with the little bugger, although that gets to be a huge drain when they reach puberty, but for me the other associated interactions deplete my battery instantly: P.e. Being forced to be polite to kid's friends parents, teachers, others that you normally would just ignore because, tbh, most are bigot dumb fucks. I'm really happy that I can delegate many of these chores to my partner, but their batteries are also not limitless.

You should probably check out how far you can go on other irl social interactions before you start a family, and please don't just do it because others seem to like having their own little happy thing, much of that haplyness is only outwards, and many just break apart catastrophically, which may often be the hardest on the kid involved.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Sounds like you want a roommate

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're only thinking about it from your own selfish perspective. Why the fuck would someone want to raise a family with someone who is aromantic and asexual. It’s obvious you both crave people and can’t stand them at the same time. That’s not a burden you should try to put on some one.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're right. Aro ace people should just kill themselves I guess?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

no. you just have to understand you can't get what you can't give.

[–] MuAraeOracle 40 points 4 months ago

Instead of looking for people to date, look for people to be in your DND campaign.

Or else join the 501st legion or something like that.

Main point is that you don't focus on the dating stuff and instead focus on the social interactions.

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