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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Stewart's episode is basically calling for a primary, which we already had, which was known for years ahead of time would happen, which literally anybody could run in, and yet nobody significant seemed interested in running. I voted in the primary, there was more than one person to vote for, Biden even lost his primary in American Samoa. To say there was "no primary" is a lie, and suggesting a party swap out a candidate who already won a primary, and by doing so throw out the votes of millions of Americans who participated in that primary process, is anti-democatic. Do you want people to switch parties and vote in the republican primary? Because that's how you do it. Did the DNC learn nothing from getting caught trying to crush Bernie's primary chances?

You lose voters you disenfranchise, period. I don't care how good the DNC's legislative aims are, if my primary vote literally does not matter, why would I ever vote in their primary again?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There was effectively no primary, quit dissembling. What happened to the 18 month primary circuses of 2015?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

"My city election for mayor didn't have enough choices on the ballot so it effectively wasn't an election and we should re-do the election". Democracy is run by those who show up. Sometimes, not many people show up. Sometimes you don't like the people who show up. Some people aside from Biden ran in the DNC primary, they lost. Anybody could have ran. If you don't liked the limited field of candidates, in a democracy, your options are: vote for who is available and run. That's it. Anything else (calling for another election because you don't like the result) is not democracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Nobody showed up because the DNC wanted it that way. It's standard operating procedure to blindly stand behind the incumbent because statistically incumbent has a higher chance to win.

It's the safe option, so the DNC put their weight behind Biden.

If DNC actually wanted an open primary with all sorts of people trying to win, we could have done that. But we didn't.

Now it's becoming obvious Biden has no chances of winning this election because of his deteriorating mental condition. Not only that, he's even less likely to be an effective head of state. Why are we choosing to put ul an almost-senile guy to represent the strongest country in the world?

I think another primary is fully justified. The best course of action would have been to have a real primary in the first place. But what else are you going to do at this point?

Biden can't win and even if he could he shouldn't win

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Sometimes the people are very clear and the establishment still chooses whoever the fuck they want a la 2016 but sure

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You guys are not voting only for the president. It's everything that comes with that. Like the supreme Court and all other justices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We won't have the Presidency or likely the House or Senate if we stick with Biden.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm voting for Biden if he's the one in the general, but I fear you may be right. Far too many normies have no idea what is at stake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah but even then it that is your only option & he still loses, then what happens when Democrats try the same thing again in 4 years. There can always be something worse than Trump and a party that capitalizes on that fear.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jon nailed it. I don't know why the Biden team is insisting he stays.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So both candidates have hijacked their own parties, as they can literally destroy them if they are forced out.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In what way did Biden hijack the party? At best it's a Weekend at Bernie's type situation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A Weekend at Sanders' isn't going to fix Biden's optics problems. Does anyone know if he needs glasses?

/j I'm making jokes so that I'm not attempting assassinations at this point.

Edit: ummm.... Well this is awkward...

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Always been that way. Shit sandwich vs Turd Burger

First Past the Post requires it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fuck that and fuck this, stop putting Biden on the same level as Trump. You can talk shit on him all you want, but he is infinitely better than Trump and it's not even a discussion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Reagan's first term was infinitely better and worse than Trump. Second term Reagan is what we are looking at. Second term Reagan had me, a six year old in July of 1987, asking my parents why the most important man in the universe/ world was unable to complete a sentence, and why would we allow someone that clearly wasn't in touch with reality to have access to the nuclear launch codes.

Biden is showing all of the mentally unstable issues Reagan did in 1984....

All that said, Live Biden > Dead Biden > Dead Trump > A Literal Steaming Pile of Cow Dung > Live Trump

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm talking about the fact we only have two choices. First past the post. We should have ranked choice voting so a candidate cannot hijack their party like both candidates have.

This isn't Nixon and Kennedy it's Hitler (Trump) vs Chamberlain (Biden)

Understand the false dichotomy of choice that you're in. Look at what France was just able to do, or what the UK finally did. The axiom of choice shouldn't have to be binary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

~~Shit sandwich vs Giant Douche~~

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich*

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nooooo no no it hasn't. Clinton vs the other guy was a BJ vs the other guy, Pre-wikileaks Bush vs Kerry was fool me cant be fooled again vs flip flops. McCain vs Obama was genuinely a war hero vs the first black prez. I'm not looking each election up and spitting from loose memory but the point is no fucking way has it ever been a rapist felon vs someone who was asked a question about abortion and was so fucking senile he answers with a fucking babbling story about a fuckin immigrant woman murdering I dont even know what the fuck he said it was so fuckin incoherent. There is no fuckin way you are old enough to vote if you are that short sighted that this is your stat quo.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Wat? You're describing my point.

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