What a shame. These “smart” people should be leading by example and coming together in solidarity against violence on all sides. What a great image that would have been to see both groups protesting the war together. Fools.
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Leading financial figures on Wall Street made a show of saying they would not employ Harvard students who signed the statement blaming Israel for the Hamas attack. A billboard truck drove around Harvard campus displaying the pictures and names of the students, and their addresses and other details were published on websites.
That's some intense and coordinated propaganda.
On the one hand, it's a favorite conspiracy among the right-wing to scream about the "internationalist cabal of Jewish globalist bankers who control the world!"
But then you read something like that, and it does seem suspicious. Like why would "leading financial figures" care who Harvard students support? And who would think putting their personal info on a fucking truck is acceptable?
Note: I am absolutely not saying or espousing any theory that the Jews control the world or anything. But I think that in a vacuum, absent any outside context, it seems weirdly coincidental for Wall Street to care if a bunch of college students blame Israel or for their information to be publicly broadcast.
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The problem with conspiracy theories is how unsure one must be of another's motives: from where you're sitting you think I'm sealioning; from my perspective you're painting with a really broad brush.
Perhaps my point wasn't clear enough so let me try to rephrase it: this is the exact kind of activity that adds fuel to right-wing anti-Semitism. I fully expect to hear on next week's Knowledge Fight Alex Jones using this to fuel his "~~Jews~~ Globalists control the world!" narrative.
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I don't give a fuck what their reasoning is, I don't root for people that take civilian hostages.
Or groups that #Trump supports.
Do you root for people stealing stealing peoples land and killing people for decades?
Fuck off with your strawmanned whataboutism, terrorist symp.
Your petulant reaction is entirely appropriate for someone trying to defend the indefensible.
No.
But that in no way justifies killing a thousand or so people, injuring several thousand more, and kidnapping and threatening to execute hundreds (including children) in an orgy of violence. Both sides are in the wrong here.
You can support the Palestinians and their right to end occupation and not support Hamas. You can be an advocate of Palestinians' rights and not endorse Hezbollah or Iran's regime. You can be pro-Palestinian without being anti-semitic. You can support Ukraine's sovereignty and decry Israel's human rights abuses. You can condemn terrorism and the killing of innocent civilians and still believe in one's right to resist.
These stances are not mutually exclusive.
End the genocide of Palestinians.
I agree, this is the part I don't understand. Why do people want to force others to pick a side? They are both wrong and treat each other horribly. Cant we condemn both? Civilian death is completely unnecessary for both sides. Just lay down all the weapons and end apartheid.
The problem is you have two right wing governments that only know violence. The civilians are the victims.
I'll tin foil hat for a second. It really feels like there's a coordinated effort to push this as a really divisive event where you either completely support Israel or you're a monster. Is that actually happening? Probably not, but it sure does feel that way.
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Let's definitely get into an uproar over the opinions of teenagers
At what age does someone's opinion start to hold any value for you?
Your brain is fully developed at age 25. Sometime around then I'll start to give a fuck what you think.... depending on your life experience up to that point.
Please state your age and life experience.
More experienced and wiser than you.
Thanks, my suspicions about you are confirmed. You’re an idiot.