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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A lot of people reacting here with a "But they're a Charity, so they most be good people" clearly are unfamiliar with the problems of Unpaid Internships in London and the scammy nature of so many UK-based Charities nowadays, especially the kind that's based in London, has junior "Personal Assistant" positions and whose "charitable objective" is the same as their name, an "painfully obvious bad thing", in a part of the "good will market" that's not yet saturated (such as for example the fight against hunger would be) and so broad that them having no measurable impact is normal and which as problem that will never be totally solved - the entire thing reeks of a "business" set up by a Politician or MBA to pay themselves vast fortunes as CxO by preying on the good will of well intentioned people.

I lived for over a decade in London and that whole adverts rings several alarm bells in my mind.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You didn't really just compared voluntary charity work with enforced slavery? I mean … honestly!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can believe anything you want to. We're living in a post-reality timeline.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

If I wanted to be a pain in the patootie I would say you had.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Idk, I don't think an unpaid internship can be considered slavery since you can voluntarily sign up for and quit it at any time.

Prison labor OTOH....

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I honestly don’t see what’s ironic about it. It’s obviously a non-profit, which usually operate with volunteers and interns. At least they’re being honest about the internship being unpaid in the title rather than leading people on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

hilarious. at this point the only kids who could take this "job" are the well-off privileged born-with-a-foot-in-the-door connected kids, thus pushing all the others away into "paid" slavery working a shitty mcjob in the hopes that one day they'll be able to get some kind of experience doing what they want. if they weren't working 60 hours a week at 2 jobs...

but yea, kudos to this charity for announcing they're not paying you shit to work for them

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So nobody should ever volunteer for anything? How does a nonprofit offering an unpaid internship force people to take another job? How is it any different from that listing just not being there? When you're looking for a job you already have to filter out the myriad of jobs that don't work for you.

Not to mention, it's a charity for human rights. I'm sure they'd be the first ones to tell you not to take the position if you can't afford to volunteer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think the difference in posture towards this is to do with familiarity with the situation of Internships in London, UK as well as the massive scam that the kind of charity using "Personal Assistants" tends to be over there.

In many areas having an Internship in your CV is almost a requirements to get a foot on the door for one's first job and in the last decade or so most such Internships are unpaid, which is especially taking the piss for London-based positions since cost of living over there is insane, so only young people who are the scions of the High Middle Class or above or whose parents live in London can afford to take such a position. This in not at all a Charity specific thing - you'll see toons of those things also in For Profit companies.

Then on top of that is the ever more scammy quality of UK Charities, especially the "professional" ones led by MBA types, from Charities were only 30% of contributions end up actually going to the supposed charitable objective of that Charity, to fatcat salaries for Charity heads and board and even Charities pestering so much those older people who tend to contribute more that there have actually been suicides amongst said older people because of it.

The "Oh, it's a Charity so it must be a good thing" reaction of many here is just the kind of deeply ignorant posture that has caused the whole sector, at least in the UK, to transform from mainly "well intentioned" into "so many scams preying on people's good will that they even undermining the actual well intentioned one trying to do good".

It's perfectly normal that those in the know would be "skeptical until proven otherwise" in the face of and advert which is a combination of "London-based charity", "UK charity that uses personal assistants" and "London-based Unpaid Internship".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Unhinged hate for a charity you know nothing about other than the fact that they're looking for helps seems completely normal

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A intern is not a slave like a university team member isn’t an athlete.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

College athletes are athletes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Pretty sure that's what they were saying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

It's hard to pick up on such nuance.